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Wikileaks heeft een wereldwijde diplomatieke crisis veroorzaakt met de publicatie van 250.000 berichten die vanuit Washington werden verstuurd naar Amerikaanse ambassades. Dat stelde de Britse krant The Guardian zondagavond.

De krant kreeg net als een aantal andere kwaliteitskranten eerder de beschikking over de documenten, die veel gevoelige informatie bevatten over het contact tussen de Verenigde Staten en andere landen. De meeste boodschappen dateren volgens de Amerikaanse krant The New York Times van de afgelopen drie jaar.

Enkele belangrijke conclusies:
Arabische leiders drongen aan op een aanval op Iran
Amerikaanse functionarissen hebben de opdracht gekregen om de VN te bespioneren
De Iraanse president Ahmadinejad wordt vergeleken met Hitler. Iran heeft hoogwaardige raketten gekocht van Noord-Korea die West-Europa kunnen bereiken
De Russische president Poetin heeft banden met de georganiseerde misdaad
Saudi-Arabië blijft een belangrijke sponsor van terreurgroepen als al-Qaida
China heeft geprobeerd om Amerikaanse computernetwerken te saboteren en zoekmachine Google plat te leggen
http://www.wikileaks.nl/
laatste aanpassing door een beheerder
 
IMO is het bewonderenswaardig wat die club probeert, gewoon vanwege de intentie en omdat ze hun nek uit durven steken voor hun idealen. Maar daarnaast helpt het vrij weinig om deze problemen ook echt aan te pakken.

Het verandert niks qua wat er in de wereld gebeurt aan vuillapperij, het maakt alleen de mensen bewust van hoe hard ze in alle gaten gekierd worden door de machthebbers op deze planeet. Aan de macht van deze criminelen doet het echter niks af.

Sommige dingen kan je beter niet weten omdat je er niets mee op schiet als je ze weet, maar je wel meer op je gemak zou voelen als je ze niet weet.
IJsland heeft de Amerikaanse ambassadeur op het matje geroepen. De Amerikanen hebben de twittergegevens van parlementslid Birgitta Jonsdottir, oud-vrijwilliger van WikiLeaks, opgevraagd.

IJsland heeft de ambassadeur er fijntjes op gewezen dat het parlementslid Jonsdottir strafrechtelijke immuniteit heeft: ze mag niet wegens haar werk worden vervolgd.

Het Amerikaanse verzoek kwam in het kader van het onderzoek naar de website WikiLeaks, die eind vorig jaar geheime Amerikaanse diplomatieke berichten heeft onthuld. Ook voor de gegevens van de Nederlander Rop Gonggrijp, oprichter van XS4ALL, is een verzoek ingediend.


Bron:http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2011/01/rel_ijsland_en_vs_om_wikileaks.html


Respect voor IJsland, Nederland geeft Amerika natuurlijk gelijk wat ze willen :nocheer:
 
Uitspraak van Rampestampertje :sadrose: op maandag 10 januari 2011 om 20:19:
Nederland geeft Amerika natuurlijk gelijk wat ze willen :nocheer:


Uiteraard. Aanpakken dat Wikileaks tuig. Digitale terroristen. (N)
Uitspraak van verwijderd op maandag 10 januari 2011 om 20:48:
Uiteraard. Aanpakken dat Wikileaks tuig. Digitale terroristen. (N)


:')
 
Uitspraak van Rampestampertje :sadrose: op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 om 20:03:
:')


Eerst wereldschokkende info beloven, met niks op de proppen komen.

Blaaskaken. (N)
Uitspraak van verwijderd op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 om 21:09:
Eerst wereldschokkende info beloven, met niks op de proppen komen.

Blaaskaken.


Ben ik het voor de verandering wel een beetje mee eens..
 
Uitspraak van SuburbanKnight op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 om 23:00:
Ben ik het voor de verandering wel een beetje mee eens..


Je bent op de hoogte dat er inmiddels genoeg gelekt is over Israël. Waardoor jouw nogal vreemde hypothese volledig in het niet gevallen is?

"Mistakes were made"

Uitspraak van SuburbanKnight op vrijdag 10 december 2010 om 13:24:
Wiki-leaks; een Israelische, neo-liberalistisch/kapitalistisch, propagandischtische-Oorlogsmachine....


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De Guantanamo files hebben ze nog achter de hand toch? Hopelijk dat ze die nooit kenbaar maken. Iedereen heeft wel een idee wat de inhoud daar van is natuurlijk. Het zou de oorlogsdreiging alleen nog maar meer opvoeren.
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Uitspraak van verwijderd op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 om 23:54:
Iedereen heeft wel een idee wat de inhoud daar van is natuurlijk. Het zou de oorlogsdreiging alleen nog maar meer opvoeren.


Tussen wie precies? :/
 
alle landen van waar er gevangenen hebben gezeten denk ik? Er is altijd wel het 1 en ander aan foute dingen tussen door gesijpeld, maar ik had begrepen dat Assange het als laatste redmiddel achter de hand hield, dus dan zal het meer bevatten denk ik?
 
Uitspraak van verwijderd op woensdag 12 januari 2011 om 00:07:
alle landen van waar er gevangenen hebben gezeten denk ik? Er is altijd wel het 1 en ander aan foute dingen tussen door gesijpeld, maar ik had begrepen dat Assange het als laatste redmiddel achter de hand hield, dus dan zal het meer bevatten denk ik?


Pakistan, Afghanistan, SA of Irak die Amerika aanvallen? Zie jij het voor je...?
"Nieuwe" onhullingen. Toen al op wikileaks, nu op RTL, censuur op NRC.nl

http://www.rtl.nl/actueel/rtlnieuws/home/rtlnieuws-wikileaks.xml
-Beatrix beloofde VS diplomaten NL. steun voor Afghanistan.
-Nu weer druk VS op nieuwe missie.

Handig, http://cablesearch.org/#netherlands
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Uitspraak van verwijderd op maandag 10 januari 2011 om 20:48:
Aanpakken dat Wikileaks tuig.


Uitspraak van verwijderd op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 om 21:09:
Eerst wereldschokkende info beloven, met niks op de proppen komen.


Als we dat naar NL doortrekken, kunnen we hier mooi 13 miljoen blaaskaken opruimen :)
 


Tegenlicht - De Wikileaks Code

(er zitten enkele scene's in die niet voor iedereen geschikt zijn om te zien. Dat zijn de live-oorlogsbeelden vanuit Apache helicopters waarmee Wikileaks als eerste bekend werd.)
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Wat denken we, is het Wikileaks verhaal over, of is het pas net begonnen?
Ik las net een aardig samenvattend stukje van het hele verhaal:

Nearly two months after WikiLeaks outraged the U.S. government by launching the release of a massive compendium of diplomatic documents, the secret-spilling website has published 2,658 U.S. State Department cables - just over 1 percent of its trove of 251,287 documents.

Here's a look at what the consequences of the cables' release has been so far, and what the future could hold for WikiLeaks.

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IT'S LIFTED THE VEIL ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

WikiLeaks has given the world's public an unprecedented, behind-the-scenes look at U.S. diplomacy. Among the most eye-catching revelations were reports that Arab countries had lobbied for an attack on Iran, China had made plans for the collapse of its North Korean ally, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had ordered U.S. diplomats to gather the computer passwords, fingerprints and even DNA of their foreign counterparts.

Some of the most controversial cables dealt with a directive to harvest biometric information on a range of officials. U.S. diplomats have been forced repeatedly to deny spying on their counterparts - although none have specifically addressed the instructions to gather personal details, sensitive computer data, and even genetic material or iris scans.

Anthony Cordesman, an analyst for the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, cautioned that some cables were less explosive when taken in the context they were written. He noted that Arab belligerence toward Tehran has festered for years - and suggested the rhetoric was being ratcheted up at a time of high tensions over Iran's nuclear program.

As for the cables on scooping up fingerprints, frequent flyer numbers, and other personal information, Cordesman said that "there isn't a diplomatic service in the world that doesn't serve its intelligence community."


WHAT'S NEXT?

Although only a small sliver of the entire trove of State Department documents has made it online, the secret memos have been held by The New York Times, Britain's The Guardian, Germany's Der Spiegel, and Spain's El Pais for weeks, if not months.

Recent cables have made news - one claimed that late Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua had a kidney transplant while he was still a state governor - but most haven't carried the same punch as earlier releases.

It isn't clear whether WikiLeaks or what it calls its "media partners" have gone through the documents in their entirety. The secret-spilling website did not return an e-mail seeking comment on its future plans, although its founder Julian Assange has repeatedly promised to speed the cables' release.

Whether or not the State Department cables have already yielded their most arresting secrets, WikiLeaks is still sitting on a huge archive of leaked data from nearly every country in the world - including, Assange has hinted, a massive trove of e-mails from Bank of America.

And even though his website is no longer accepting submissions, Assange said secrets were still making their way to him all the time. On Monday, a Swiss ex-banker - now under arrest for his interactions with WikiLeaks - handed Assange his latest set of secrets, data which he claimed carried details of tax evasion by some 2,000 prominent people.

Assange said the material could be online within weeks.


Met pas 1% van de documenten gelekt, wat zou er nog kunnen komen?
 
Uitspraak van verwijderd op maandag 24 januari 2011 om 20:19:
Met pas 1% van de documenten gelekt, wat zou er nog kunnen komen?


Hoe kom je aan die één % ?
 
Ah, was bronnetje vergeten (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110123/D9KU4TA00.html)

Is een claim van Wikleaks zelf. die 200.000 kan ik me nog herinneren vanuit het begin. Dat er pas iets meer dan 2.000 gelekt zouden zijn had ik geen idee van. Het is te groot om allemaal bij te kunnen houden in 1 leven.

Ik kwam op deze site via Drudge Report, een tip als je het internationale nieuws in de gaten wil houden. Directe links naar alle grote spelers op het gebied van nieuws. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
laatste aanpassing
 
WL :gaap:
 
Zullen de media Assange bij blijven staan in zijn missie tegen de vrijheid en een eventuele strafzaak? ;)


WikiLeaks, Revolution, and the Lost Cojones of American Journalism

Now that the WikiLeaks releases about Tunisian corruption have directly sparked a peoples' uprising in Tunisia; now that Egypt is in the throes of pro-democracy protest driven in large measure by WikiLeaks' revelation in the Palestine Papers about US manipulation of Palestine, surely one would expect key U.S. news organizations and journalists to rally prominently to the defense of the right to publish that that site represents. One would expect lead editorials supporting Assange's right to publish from the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and USAToday, not to mention every major TV outlet. But instead, what we have heard is the deafening sounds of what middle-schoolers call 'crickets' -- that is, an awkward silence. As Nancy Youssef in the McClatchy papers reported recently, most U.S. journalists -- and, even more shamefully, journalists' organizations -- decided, regarding supporting Wikileaks' freedom to publish, to "take a pass."

How on earth could this be? This cravenness represents one of American journalism's darkest hours -- as dark as the depth of the McCarthy era. In terms of the question of the legalities of publishing classified information, most American journalists understand full well that Assange is not the one who committed the crime of illegally obtaining classified material -- that was Bradley Manning, or whomever released the material to the site. So Assange is not the 'hacker' of secrets, as People magazine has mis-identified him; he is of course the publisher, just as any traditional news organization is. He is not Daniel Ellsberg, in the most comparable analogy, the illegal releaser of the classified Pentagon Papers; rather, Assange is analogous to the New York Times, which made the brave and correct decision to publish the Pentagon Papers in the public's interest.

U.S. journalists also know perfectly well that they too traffic in classified material continually -- and many of our most prominent reporters have built lucrative careers doing exactly what Assange is being charged with. Any sophisticated dinner party in media circles in New York or Washington has journalists jauntily showing prospective employers their goods, or trading favors with each other, by disclosing classified information. For we all, in this profession, know that seeking out and handling classified information is what serious journalists DO: their job is to find out the government's secrets in spite of officials who don't want these secrets revealed. American journalists also know that the U.S. government classifies information mostly out of embarrassment, or for expediency, rather than because of true national security concerns (an example is the classification of suspicious deaths in Guantanamo and other US-held jails). The New York Times garnered kudos -- as they should have -- in 2005 with the publication of the SWIFT banking story -- based on leaked classified documents, which makes Bill Kellers' recent essay trying to put distance between his newspaper and WikiLeaks all the more indefensible.

Here is what readers are not being told: We have ALL handled classified information if we are serious American journalists. I am waiting for more than a handful of other American reporters, editors and news organizations to have the courage -- courage that is in abundance in Tahrir Square and on the pages of Al Jazeera, now that we no longer see it on the editorial page of the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal -- to stand up and confirm the obvious. For the assault on Assange to be credible, they would have to come arrest us all. Many of Bob Woodward's bestselling books, which have made him America's highest-paid reporter, are based on classified information -- that's why he gets the big bucks. Where are the calls for Woodward's arrest? Indeed Dick Cheney and other highest-level officials in the Bush administration committed the same act as Bradley Manning in this case, when they illegally revealed the classified identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

So why do all these American reporters, who know quite well that they get praise and money for doing what Assange has done, stand in a silence that can only be called cowardly, while a fellow publisher faces threats of extradition, banning, prosecution for spying -- which can incur the death penalty -- and calls for his assassination?

One could say that the reason for the silence has to do with the sexual misconduct charges in Sweden. But any serious journalist in America knows perfectly well that the two issues must not be conflated. The First Amendment applies to rogues and scoundrels. You don't lose your First Amendment rights because of a sleazy personality, or even for having committed a crime. Felons in jail are protected by the First Amendment. Indeed the most famous First Amendment cases, the ones that are supposed to showcase America's strength and moral power, involve the protection of speech most decent people hate.

So again: why have U.S. journalists and editor, as Youssef reported, "shunned" Assange? Youssef reports an almost unbelievably craven American press scenario: The "freedom of the press committee" -- yes, you read that correctly -- of the Overseas Press Club of America in New York City declared him "not one of us." The Associated Press itself won't issue comment about him. And even the National Press Club in Washington made the decision not to speak publicly about the possibility that Assange may be charged with a crime. She notes that it is foreign press organizations that have had to defend him.

One answer for this silence has to do with what happens to the press in a closing society. I warned in 2006 and often since that you don't need a coup to close down America's open society -- you need to simply accomplish a few key goals. One critical task -- number seven -- is to intimidate journalists; this is done, as in any closing society, by creating a situation in which a high-profile reporter is accused of "treason" or of endangering national security through their reporting, and threatened with torture or with a show trial and indefinite detention. History shows that when that happens, you don't need to arrest or threaten any other reporters -- because they immediately start to police and censor themselves, and fall all over themselves attacking the "traitor" as well. That way safety lies, whether the knowledge is conscious or not.

Another motive is revealed in the comment that Assange is "not one of us." U.S. journalism's business model is collapsing; the people who should be out in front defending Assange are facing cut salaries or unemployment because of the medium that Assange represents. These journalists are not willing to concede that Assange is, of course, a publisher, rather than some sort of hybrid terrorist blogger, because of their self-interested prejudices against a medium in which they are not the gatekeepers.

In this, paradoxically, they have become just like the outraged U.S. government officials who are threatening Assange: the American government too is in the position, because of the Internet, of no longer being able to control its secrets, and is lashing out at Assange as it faces a future in which there are no traditional gatekeepers, and all institutions live in glass houses.

It is for this reason that the prosecution of Assange -- and his betrayal by his fellow journalists and publishers in America -- is so almost absurdly futile. Even if they lock Assange up forever, the world of the future is a WikiLeaks world. Trying to extradite and to convict Assange is like trying to convict the first person who dared to install a telephone. The WikiLeaks necessity -- for citizens who are upset at government or private sector abuses of power -- to release documents, is not going away, ever. Egypt is showing us that conclusively: they turn off the news and people create the news on their cellphones. The technology of leaking government secrets globally is not going away either. In five years one can expect that every major institution will have its own version of WikiLeaks -- so shareholders, members of university communities, citizens of governments all over the world, and so on, can read the secrets that are in the public interest that the traditional gatekeepers wish to keep under wraps.

History shows that journalists only protect themselves, when bullied like this, by fighting back -- as a group. And history shows that when a technology and its social change are inevitable, it is better to integrate the way the future will work, into an open society -- rather than trying pointlessly to punish it, in this case by seeking to ship the inevitable future off to Guantanamo Bay.

Written by Naomi Wolf
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