MDA en MDEA werken ook prima.
There ain't much Google can't tell you.
Maarom omdat ik graag help
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MDA
A recreational dose of MDA is commonly between 80 and 160mg. The “R” optical isomer is more potent than the “S” optical isomer. Although there is some debate, the duration of the drug is now generally believed to be roughly 6 to 10 hours. (In the late 90s, Alexander Shulgin changed his opinion of the duration to 3-6 hours.)
MDA is thought to have similar pharmacological mechanisms and effects as MDMA (Ecstasy). Like MDMA, MDA causes serotonin release, which may explain the similar euphoria and empathogen/entactogen effects. However, MDA has a higher affinity for 5-HT2A receptors, thus causing more psychedelic-like effects, such as hallucinations.
MDA is said to share with MDMA empathogen/entactogenic effects. While it is generally similar to MDMA, users report that MDA has more psychedelic or hallucinogenic qualities and less empathogen/entactogenic effects than MDMA. MDA is also considered less predictable than MDMA and thus its effects can vary greatly from person to person. However, no properly controlled experiments have compared these drugs in people.
MDA also differs from its methylated cousin MDMA in its acute toxicity, in that it is clearly more toxic, with toxicity indicative of overstimulation of the central nervous system.[3] Symptoms of acute toxicity may include agitation, sweating, increased blood pressure and heart rate, dramatic increase in body temperature, convulsions, and death. Death is usually caused by cardiac effects and hemorrhaging in the brain.[3] The website erowid.org lists the fatality rate at roughly 2 in 100,000 users, assuming it has similar rates as MDMA.[4] The LD50 in mice has been reported as 92mg/kg by intraperitoneal injection.
MDEA ofwel MDE
MDEA works by releasing serotonin, a neurotransmitter that affects mood and perception. It requires a slightly larger dose (100–200mg) than MDMA with major effects lasting typically between three and five hours.[1] The subjective effects of MDEA are similar to MDMA. The euphoric "loved up" feelings associated with MDMA use are not as pronounced. The effects are also not as stimulating as MDMA, MDEA has somewhat of a stoning effect and may be responsible for rumors of heroin-laced ecstasy pills. However, MDEA does have a mildly hallucinogenic effect.
En daar heeft wiki een beetje een foutje, MDEA wordt namelijk vaker ervaren als wat meer speedy en MDA als meer psychedelisch/hallucinogeen, zoals daar wel correct in het stukje staat
En erowid:
While the effects of these two substances are sufficiently similar to make differentiation difficult, there are some significant subjective differences. MDE is somewhat less potent than MDMA, a typical dose being in the range 100-160mg (as opposed to 80-140mg with MDMA).
At large doses, MDE may somewhat resemble MDA (methylenedioxy amphetamine). Although MDE's psychedelic effects are less; it has a "stoning" effect for some people, and at higher doses can make walking or dancing difficult. Large doses of MDMA can have a similar effect, although it seems that somewhat more can be used without incurring the almost drunken intoxication.
In smaller amounts, MDE greatly resembles MDMA, although the physical and tactile effects are generally perceived as being less prevalent. The emotional opening and empathic effects for which MDMA is famous, although present with MDE do not seem to be as pronounced. Because of this more subtle effect, MDE has the possible advantage as a recreational substance over MDMA when used in public (such as at raves). With MDE, the user is less likely to embarass him/herself in public through inappropriate touching and emotional bonding while still being able to enjoy some level of heart opening and connection with others.
Additionally, MDE has a shorter duration than MDMA. While MDMA generally lasts 3-4 hours of full effects, MDE's full effects last more like 2-4 hours.
Toch wel verschillende duur van de trip die genoemd wordt tussen beide sites dus.
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