Hello everybody,
that's true; it's not easy to learn dutch if you don't follow lesson and you have to be help by your friends who talk to you in dutch... because if you don't have the "goed uitspraak" everybody is talking to you in english!!! annoying!!!
But that's the price to be "in" I think... My girlfriend is dutch, I am french and we are talking in english... good at the beginning but annoying now when we want to go further in the discussion!
I can understand better but to express myself oualala hardcore!
If you live in a country, you have to speak the natural language: that's a basic!
tot snel oups see you soon
that's true; it's not easy to learn dutch if you don't follow lesson and you have to be help by your friends who talk to you in dutch... because if you don't have the "goed uitspraak" everybody is talking to you in english!!! annoying!!!
But that's the price to be "in" I think... My girlfriend is dutch, I am french and we are talking in english... good at the beginning but annoying now when we want to go further in the discussion!
I can understand better but to express myself oualala hardcore!
If you live in a country, you have to speak the natural language: that's a basic!
tot snel oups see you soon
Uitspraak van Gabberfreak82 aka Flyerjunky op zondag 5 augustus 2007 om 23:32:in 020jodendam you have to talk joods (hebräisch)
i for my self learn always a bit dutch. cause i live near the boarder and have some dutch friends (i-net & real)
what a joke
You have to respect the culture of the country where you are moving... at least the oficial language!!!
if you move to Spain and you don't want to learn Spanish... then you will have problems to have a normal life here.
Haha I Know, went to Barcelona not too long a go for a short vacation, nobody understood me
Uitspraak van La.Vida.LocaI think you learn it better when you write with Nederlandsop zaterdag 31 maart 2007 om 16:20:
I think you're right.. I've learn English because I only did Englisch games(world wide games, Pristontale, Tibia)
I have people from howl the world in my msn, and that helps too..
But I think in holland you don't learn a thing on school..
only things you don't need.. We learn german too.. but I don't understand that!!
Ich spreche keine duitch, tut mir leit.. xD
maar nederlands gaat me een stuk makkelijker af xD
Yes! I wanted to move to Holland! that's why I started to study dutch!
I remember one time in utrech... I was in a hotel and a guy was talking to me in Spanish (he was spanish) and he told me "to learn dutch?? why?? you don't need it here!!!!" and I became mad with him. If everybody thinks like him then dutch will desapear with the time. You have to respect the culture of the country where you are moving... at least the oficial language!!! if you move to Spain and you don't want to learn Spanish... then you will have problems to have a normal life here.
to you my friend, respect the other country its culture and language 
Yes! I wanted to move to Holland! that's why I started to study dutch!
I remember one time in utrech... I was in a hotel and a guy was talking to me in Spanish (he was spanish) and he told me "to learn dutch?? why?? you don't need it here!!!!" and I became mad with him. If everybody thinks like him then dutch will desapear with the time. You have to respect the culture of the country where you are moving... at least the oficial language!!! if you move to Spain and you don't want to learn Spanish... then you will have problems to have a normal life here.
That is a good point!
But, i dont think its really necessary. Eventually, wouldnt it be better if we al could speak one language? Or at least have one MAIN language? I guess english would be best suited for that since its already implementend in so many countries already.
Dutch people have always been a trading kind, and its in our nature to know more languages. Or at least a little bit of english.
Does or language really matter when were so small compared to the rest of the world? Maybey we should all learn chinese with its upcoming economy.
Just something to think about.
Yes i am dutch, and yes i am proud of it. And no i dont speak chinese... 
Ik spreek shlecht ... erm... dutch
i always wanted to learn dutch,
but i havent found the right software yet.
I fully agree with Akasha!
U have to respect the culuture of the country in which u are moving,
and u have to speak their language !
these are the unwritten rules of every country, not matter if germany, holland, austria, britain,....
i always wanted to learn dutch,
but i havent found the right software yet.
I fully agree with Akasha!
U have to respect the culuture of the country in which u are moving,
and u have to speak their language !
these are the unwritten rules of every country, not matter if germany, holland, austria, britain,....
But, i dont think its really necessary. Eventually, wouldnt it be better if we al could speak one language? Or at least have one MAIN language? I guess english would be best suited for that since its already implementend in so many countries already.
Dutch people have always been a trading kind, and its in our nature to know more languages. Or at least a little bit of english.
No, that's disrespectful to your own country.
http://www.rosettastone.com/index/
Uitspraak van Klynduimpje op dinsdag 27 maart 2007 om 18:11:Omg, How lame!
How would you ever get to know the language if you don't know how to speak it.
Every a b or c is different spelled than in england.
Those website don't work at all
first of all you dumbass! probably learn it the same way learned english......
now i have never seen a more stupid sentence than the following:
Every a b or c is different spelled than in england.
please tell me i'm not the only one that noticed that!
Uitspraak van Funk Apprentice op maandag 17 september 2007 om 09:50:please tell me i'm not the only one that noticed that!
Grin...
why learn dutch? its difficult and all the dutch people arent as stupid as other people from other countries who cant speak english, german or whatever We all speak english and basic german, so why bother learn dutch.
why learn dutch? its difficult and all the dutch people arent as stupid as other people from other countries who cant speak english, german or whatever We all speak english and basic german, so why bother learn dutch.
And why do we always need to change our language to commucate with you?
We always do it, if we go to germay, we speak german, but is someone from germany comes to holland we also speak german...
Why?
Because we have an inferiority complex: foreigners are always more important than ourselves. We are more than willing to give up our culture, language and identity to please tourists and immigrants. They don't have to adapt, because we do it already. So please, foreigners, come live here and help us waste our once so beautiful country!!!!!!!
And why do we always need to change our language to commucate with you?
We always do it, if we go to germay, we speak german, but is someone from germany comes to holland we also speak german...
Why?
ya exactly ..thats the way it should go down .. and if you dont like it then you no where the nearest airport is ...
I also want to learn dutch...I have been living in The Netherlands for 8 months, but unfortunately I couldn't follow a dutch language school...I always spoke and studied at university (in Nijmegen) in english...
watching tv, dutch websites, looking what was written in shops and around the city...I have learned something, mostly the written dutch...I'm able to understand 60% of what I see written in dutch...and a little bit also the spoken language...but of course it's not so much!!
I love The Netherlands, and I really would like to move there again in the future, maybe to live there forever...so I want to learn the language, to be able to stay there!
The problem is that I cannot easily find a dutch school in Italy, it's not a common language to learn for us...
I do what I can using a dictionary, some books...but I know that I should start from the grammar basis, and mostly I need to listen the spoken language! to read a book is not enough
watching tv, dutch websites, looking what was written in shops and around the city...I have learned something, mostly the written dutch...I'm able to understand 60% of what I see written in dutch...and a little bit also the spoken language...but of course it's not so much!!
I love The Netherlands, and I really would like to move there again in the future, maybe to live there forever...so I want to learn the language, to be able to stay there!
The problem is that I cannot easily find a dutch school in Italy, it's not a common language to learn for us...
I do what I can using a dictionary, some books...but I know that I should start from the grammar basis, and mostly I need to listen the spoken language! to read a book is not enough
well fair play to you .. at least you try not like so people who expect it to be easy for them 
.. at least you try not like so people who expect it to be easy for them laatste aanpassing
yes! I know it will be difficult...but I really want it! I will try to do my best! my passion for Holland will help me!
Uitspraak van ***Silvia*** op zaterdag 22 september 2007 om 22:01:I also want to learn dutch...I have been living in The Netherlands for 8 months, but unfortunately I couldn't follow a dutch language school...I always spoke and studied at university (in Nijmegen) in english...
watching tv, dutch websites, looking what was written in shops and around the city...I have learned something, mostly the written dutch...I'm able to understand 60% of what I see written in dutch...and a little bit also the spoken language...but of course it's not so much!!
I love The Netherlands, and I really would like to move there again in the future, maybe to live there forever...so I want to learn the language, to be able to stay there!
The problem is that I cannot easily find a dutch school in Italy, it's not a common language to learn for us...
I do what I can using a dictionary, some books...but I know that I should start from the grammar basis, and mostly I need to listen the spoken language! to read a book is not enough
If you want to learn how to speak dutch, then you just have to mingle with dutch people!
I know that sounds easier said then done, but its the most easy way of learning. Because it kind of forces you to communicate with them. First, youll start in english of course, but eventually they could help you... And maybe if you could get a job as a translater im sure they'll be happy to help you learn dutch as well.
I dont know if you already tried some of these methods, but you can always give it a shot!
Good luck with it! Does it have you also for English? 
If you want to learn how to speak dutch, then you just have to mingle with dutch people!
I know that sounds easier said then done, but its the most easy way of learning. Because it kind of forces you to communicate with them. First, youll start in english of course, but eventually they could help you... And maybe if you could get a job as a translater im sure they'll be happy to help you learn dutch as well.
I dont know if you already tried some of these methods, but you can always give it a shot! Good luck with it!
thanks for your suggestion!
I agree it's a good method! I tried to do it, but I need a lot of time in Holland to do it...as long as I stay in my country I cannot do it just live in holland and it will come
oh, yes, very easy!!
I need to find a loooot of money, and then I could move there...but for now...I'm just studying, so no money
I need to find a loooot of money, and then I could move there...but for now...I'm just studying, so no money
ah ha i see , then thats a problem , but if you want so bad then you ll find a solution for your self and good luck with that
Lmao, Seriously speaking dutch aint that hard, I'd say speaking english is alot harder even, Anyways.. Goodluck on learning it.
Wannabe dutch!
Wannabe dutch!
laatste aanpassing
english is one of the hardest to learn so if you speak english take pride in that
ya germany has the most verbs and stuff in its lanague, but english is so stop trying to disagree and go with the flow
Uitspraak van Dr. Struggleof je bent gewoon in Nederland geboren en je weet niet beterop vrijdag 30 maart 2007 om 11:36:
Uitspraak van JohnyHamburg op dinsdag 3 april 2007 om 19:13:Im living for for month in Amsterdam now and dutch is still quite bad Realy hard becouse everybodys speaking english here you are never forced to speak dutch !
Dude ... your English sucks balls
ghahhahahah its quite funny alrite
I'm Dutch, but I deal with "international" people on a daily basis, so I thought...see if non-Dutch PF-ers experience the same as my colleagues .
Just a few pointers to learn Dutch (assuming that you live in our "wonderful" country:
1. Ask everyone within your environment to speak Dutch to you, even if you don't speak Dutch to them. As some of you already said, Dutchies can speak English all too well, so...
2. Watch more TV than you are used to. The Dutch television is very international oriented, meaning we have a lot of english/american shows, including Dutch subtitles. In this way, you can relate your native language to the Dutch words (this was my way of learning English as well
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3. When you want to speak yourself, start using English and Dutch mixed. Example: I want a ham & cheese sandwich --> I want a ham & cheese broodje. In this way, you will slowly get familiar with very specific Dutch words.
Well, hope this helps a little bit...good luck!
Cheers.
.Just a few pointers to learn Dutch (assuming that you live in our "wonderful" country:
1. Ask everyone within your environment to speak Dutch to you, even if you don't speak Dutch to them. As some of you already said, Dutchies can speak English all too well, so...
2. Watch more TV than you are used to. The Dutch television is very international oriented, meaning we have a lot of english/american shows, including Dutch subtitles. In this way, you can relate your native language to the Dutch words (this was my way of learning English as well
;3. When you want to speak yourself, start using English and Dutch mixed. Example: I want a ham & cheese sandwich --> I want a ham & cheese broodje. In this way, you will slowly get familiar with very specific Dutch words.
Well, hope this helps a little bit...good luck!
Cheers.
ja thats a very good way of learn dutch and speak or say it slow to your self before you want to say it .. but the televisie is very handy also 
Dutch isn't that hard if your Deutsch is good.
well its not easy for every one just depends on the person
well its not easy for every one just depends on the person
Agreed, But like i said earlier.. Speaking dutch is even harder then actually speaking english.
Dutch isn't that hard if your Deutsch is good.
You fail, Dutch has nothing to do with german in any way neither english, lol.
english is one of the hardest to learn so if you speak english take pride in that
Have you even though about french, And all other languages?
Dutch is my main language. And my english isn't that good.. in my eyes, But don't correct me. I hate it >_<
mmkthnxbye.
laatste aanpassing
Uitspraak van verwijderd op zaterdag 20 oktober 2007 om 14:30:You fail, Dutch has nothing to do with german in any way neither english, lol.
Indeed; although some words are alike, the grammar is way different in German than it is in Dutch...I am Dutch, but suck at German
Uitspraak van verwijderd op zaterdag 20 oktober 2007 om 14:30:english is one of the hardest to learn so if you speak english take pride in that
I disagree; because this is a language that is recognized as the world language, it will allow people to absorb this more easily than any other language...take a look at the tv and 8 out of 10 shows is in English...look at your own language and see how many English words already have been taken over...this is excluding eastern (chinese/japanese) languages of course
.Uitspraak van verwijderd op zaterdag 20 oktober 2007 om 14:30:Have you even though about france, And all other languages?
In addition, if you learn English properly, it becomes a lot easier to learn languages like French and Spanish, because these are all Latin-based.
englsih is world wide so its very easy to hear it around .. even i get english customers and i have to speak english evne do thats no problem
englsih is world wide so its very easy to hear it around .. even i get english customers and i have to speak english evne do thats no problem
I feel sorry for your customers...
Uitspraak van Gabberfreak82 aka Flyerjunky op zondag 5 augustus 2007 om 23:32:in 020jodendam you have to talk joods (hebräisch)
i for my self learn always a bit dutch. cause i live near the boarder and have some dutch friends (i-net & real)
mafkees... lul maar lekker slap als t om n erectie gaat....
Uitspraak van Nom bikkitdutch hospitalityop woensdag 13 juni 2007 om 21:55:
I'd like to learn dutch in the future, because i'd like to come to live in holland, but first i need to learn english better!
First lessons to propper Dutch:
I think he can speak Italian scince he's from Italy
hahahhahahah
Uitspraak van verwijderd op zaterdag 10 november 2007 om 15:37:I think he can speak Italian scince he's from Italy
It's not so sure...
Some poeple cant speak their mother languages... About the topic: I've started to learn dutch a little bit (on my own at home, it's pretty pleasant
) and from my perspective it's really connected with German and English... Some part of grammar are similar to German(not all of course but some structures- indeed) and some words similar to English...
But of course it's not the same. Dutch is very original language and even when it's fucking difficult for me to say some word- I like it
It's going to be a challenge laatste aanpassing