Gezocht: Het Grote ID&T en Hardcore verzamelaars Topic

Ik probeer via deze weg verzamelaars op het gebied van Thunderdome en Verdere hardcore gerelateerde verzamel items onder / tot elkander te brengen.
Vaak zijn er discussies over verzamel objecten in een topic van mensen die wat zoeken of verkopen. Kan me voorstellen dat het soms hinderlijk is, of dat iemand het vervelend vind.
Oa, gaat het vaak over een Vinyl, een Thunderdome cd, Posters en Flyers.
Een cd die wel of niet bestaat. Bijv. Thunderdome 13 the megamix.

Misschien kan ik via deze weg, met eventuele medewerking van PartyFlock een topic creëren waar lekker over deze dingen gesproken kan worden.
Als Bijvoorbeeld:


Ik weet dat er veel verzamelaars zijn op het gebied van Hardcore.
Maar er is nog geen gezamelijke topic. Waar het 1 en ander ongestoord besproken kan worden. En je mening kan uiten.
De 1 vind het kinderachtig. Voor de ander een passie.
De een heeft eindelijk die Laatste of zeldzame flyer gevonden de andere een vinyl die hij/zij al jaren zoekt.
Misschien dat dit niet werkt?
Kan ik altijd zeggen: Niet geschoten is altijd mis.
Ik doe dit dan ook, om eventueel andere topics te ontlasten, En omdat ik heb rondgevraagd en heb begrepen dat er wel animo voor is.
Iedereen is welkom, en zeg ik kom maar op met jullie dingen.

For International collectors:

I creat this topic for collectors to debate about all kind of items Hardcore related you can collect.
Such as: cds, Vinyls, fyers, posters Etc Etc.
And to get collectors insite en outside of holland togetter in one big topic. "Sofar they don't know each other already"
To trade, buy or sell items you have in double.
And because some conversations are continue in topics of persons who like to buy or sell their items on PartyFlock, and dont like the conversations in their topic.
So when you got anything you like to share with another collector,
please enjoy this topic.
And perhaps it wil be a success.

Maybe it dont work out, then the only i can say "i have try to make something like this possible, also when it dont work out".

Übersetzung Deutsche Sprache, senden privat Bericht nach mir.
traduire au milie de français, envoyer je un privé faire-part.
traducir dentro de portugués/español origen yo no de . "blague"


HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE THUNDERDOME

Iemand nog geinteresseerd in een cassette tape van Thunderdome 96 mc2, eventueel ruilen tegen de mc1?

My little Gabber.
I realy love this guy.

Uitspraak van Natas_Gabber_Carlo op maandag 8 juni 2009 om 11:38:

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Ik wil het geld terugsturen maar om dat te doen heb ik dan ook
jouw swift/bic code nodig en de naam van de plaats waar je woont.

not good but you get your money back

Uitspraak van Gabberfreak82 aka Flyerjunky op maandag 8 juni 2009 om 12:02:

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not good but you get your money back

Ok he gets his money back but i think he would be happyer with the "pet" (omg wat is pet nu weer in engels? Cap toch niet? )

It's a shame that such things happen...

Carlo,ik had geloof ik een doos vol cd's naar jou of een vriend van je verstuurd...hoor dr niks van dus zal dan wel goed aangekomen zijn? enig idee?

En zelf weer de nodige nieuwe dingen binnen maar beetje de lol eraf om het nog te poosten/verkopen
Komt wel weer.

Zijn dit niet die cd's waar zo gek hoog op wordt geboden?

http://link.marktplaats.nl/255576076
http://link.marktplaats.nl/256289402
http://link.marktplaats.nl/256289111

Uitspraak van Organized Mess op maandag 8 juni 2009 om 17:38:

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Zijn dit niet die cd's waar zo gek hoog op wordt geboden?

nee dit zijn juist de minst waardevolle van alle megamixen

Oh
Maar het zijn wel de megamixen die zoveel waard zijn voor de liefhebbers/verzamelaars toch?

Uitspraak van Organized Mess op maandag 8 juni 2009 om 17:38:

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Zijn dit niet die cd's waar zo gek hoog op wordt geboden?

3 cd's voor 40 euro vind ik niet hoog???????

Uitspraak van verwijderd op maandag 8 juni 2009 om 22:02:

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3 cd's voor 40 euro vind ik niet hoog???????

Ik dacht dat het die megamixen waren die voor 200 ofzo weggaan

Trouwens, ik heb nog een leuk item binnen gekregen.
Pre Flyer Hengelo

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 01:49:

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Trouwens, ik heb nog een leuk item binnen gekregen.
Pre Flyer Hengelo

I think I have double if anyone wants a trade.

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 02:43:

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I think I have double if anyone wants a trade.

Thats strange, you always say to me you have nothing to trade?
But i dont need it any more, mabey someone els.
I also get a flyer from Earthquake on tour 1997 in Australia, real nice flyer.
I upload later, they write also a little story about there tour in Australia in the book "ID&T Release"
That year there was no Thunderdome on tour becouse other organisations use the name of Thunderdome & ID&T in Australia, and make a big mess

Something els, maybe its a little old, and dont work any more.
But a part of the old webside of Thunderdome 1998
http://thunderdome.id-t.com/thunderdome98/framesnl.html
http://www.thunderdome.com/thunderdome98/nl/nieuws/


Te koop: Strobe Magazine 1 t/m 44. Thunderdome. Advertentienr.:256462244 €100,-
http://link.marktplaats.nl/256462244

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 01:49:

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Trouwens, ik heb nog een leuk item binnen gekregen.
Pre Flyer Hengelo

congrats. now you´re also in the club with the people who have this

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 07:40:

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Thats strange, you always say to me you have nothing to trade?
But i dont need it any more, mabey someone els.

I tough you had this one already! Or else we could have traded...

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 07:40:

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I also get a flyer from Earthquake on tour 1997 in Australia, real nice flyer.

Miss that one, it was on the old thunderdome site. U have it double?

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 07:40:

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Something els, maybe its a little old, and dont work any more.
But a part of the old webside of Thunderdome 1998
http://thunderdome.id-t.com/thunderdome98/framesnl.html
http://www.thunderdome.com/thunderdome98/nl/nieuws/

Yeah, it's still around since 1998, it never went down.
A pitty the shop does not work! ehehehhe

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 01:49:

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Trouwens, ik heb nog een leuk item binnen gekregen.
Pre Flyer Hengelo

Had ik je toch al gegeven??

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 15:57:

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I tough you had this one already! Or else we could have traded...

He did but not in a good condition

Uitspraak van verwijderd op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:01:

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Had ik je toch al gegeven??

Tonight i come On Topic with some Australian ID&T history.
For the people that like to know about it?

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:03:

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For the people that like to know about it?

Wordt schijtziek van dat hele Australie
Maar Olaf heb jij toevallig adressen van de betere platen/cd zaken in OZ,was namelijk wel mijn plan om daar eens goed rond te zoeken etc

Heb alleen Melbourne,maar in Perth/Sydney moeten toch ook de cd zaken zitten die ook wat specifieker op hardcore etc gericht zijn?

Uitspraak van P-T-W op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:41:

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Wordt schijtziek van dat hele Australie

Ja ja.
Je heb zeker je visum al binnen "klerelijer "
Ik heb afgelopen zondag toevallig een ontmoeting gehad met de mensen van ons emigratie buro.
Was echt een leuke ontmoeting, ze waren toevallig voor zaken in Nederland.
We hebben een half uur met ze gesproken en hun zeggen dat we voor 100% een visum versterkt krijgen zoals de zaken er nu voor staan YES YES YES.

Uitspraak van P-T-W op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:41:

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Maar Olaf heb jij toevallig adressen van de betere platen/cd zaken in OZ,was namelijk wel mijn plan om daar eens goed rond te zoeken etc

Hier kom ik nog op terug.
Ja die heb ik, maar ga nu ff verder met me research About Thunderdome On Tour OZ Down-Under.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:57:

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We hebben een half uur met ze gesproken en hun zeggen dat we voor 100% een visum versterkt krijgen zoals de zaken er nu voor staan YES YES YES.

Netjes!!!
Heb ik direct een vakantie-adres voor de rest van mijn leven aan de westkust

Nice filmpje ook redbacks!!

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 18:03:

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Tonight i come On Topic with some Australian ID&T history.
For the people that like to know about it?

There where couple Thunderdome Raves in Australia for sure.
Only in the Dutch booklets and ID&T organisation its better known as The Dreamteam on tour Oz.
Not Thunderdome on tour.
So the official name is Dream Team on Tour. Not Thunderdome.
ID&T and some Oz Djs confirm this information to me,
so Thunder Down under cd is not official a Thunderdome cd for sure.
This cd is press without authorisation from ID&T.
But they just don’t make a big problem about this cd because it was free promotion for them.
The live sets on this cd are studio recordings. Confirm by Dj Spellbound.
On the flyers they use Thunderdome because the Australian ravers don’t know the Dreamteam back then,
but they do know the name Thunderdome.
In the year 1995 where the first Thunderdome raves at the next locations.
- 23-9-1995 Brisbane.4000 ravers
- 29/30-9-1995 Sydney. 1000 ravers indoor 3000 ravers outdoor try to get in, was a big mess.
- 1-10-1995 Perth. 4000 ravers
- 7-10-1995 Melbourne.
- 14-10-1995 Adelaide.5000 ravers
ID&T Crew: Dreamteam (Dano, Buzz Fuzz, Gizmo, Prophet), Lady Dames,
Irfan, Celia (The BZRK magician)

All information i get from ID&T, Strobe, Thundermagazine, ID&T release book, flyers,
other rave magazines People that where on the raves and some djs.
So when they not tell the treu i lie now to.

Some pictures os the dreamteam on Tour Oz.


Thunderdome 1996 or dreamteam on Tour 1996 i'm not finish jet.
But when i have it i upload for sure

About Earthquake 1997 Oz.

In the year 1997 there was no Thunderdome Rave in Australia.
It was the first time Earthquake take place in Australia.
25-1-1997 Sydney.
Why no Thunderdome Rave?
The Dutch version you can read at the right of the picture I upload.
Own words of ID&T:
The reason they call this rave Earthquake instead of Thunderdome was because, there where allot of organisations that time that organise also Thunderdome raves without permission of ID&T.
They use the name Thunderdome and say the rave was in Cooperation with ID&T. But ID&T was not knowing about the raves. They don’t give their permission to organise Thunderdome raves. (about 15 raves between 1995 & 1997) Also there were no Dutch Djs at this raves. And because they completely Damage the name of Thunderdome it was not possible to get a authorization to give a Thunderdome rave in the future. They completely blowup the possibilities.
That’s why ID&T 1997 Down-Under give a rave under the name of Earthquake. Back then ID&T promise to come back Down-Under to let the Australia people how you have to make a big good Rave. And they keep their promise last year ID&T return to OZ with Sensation 45.000 people completely exhausted.



So all you boys and girls, thats all for today.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 21:28:

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There where couple Thunderdome Raves in Australia for sure.
Only in the Dutch booklets and ID&T organisation its better known as The Dreamteam on tour Oz.
Not Thunderdome on tour.
So the official name is Dream Team on Tour. Not Thunderdome.
ID&T and some Oz Djs confirm this information to me,
so Thunder Down under cd is not official a Thunderdome cd for sure.
This cd is press without authorisation from ID&T.

Not what I heard from the people who MADE the CD. I can tell you these were Thunderdome on Tour with ID&T sponsor because I do have the flyers ( I think you too) with the ID&T and thunderdome logos, and on the thunderdome booklets it does show up australia as thunderdome on tour. In fact in old info you can see thunderdome toured australia in 1995 and 1996. Enrave CD is from 1995. 1997 is another year, that year no thunderdome, if there were fake thunderdomes, I have never seen the flyer.
Dreamteam on Tour was used on thudnerdome events and in other events not thunderdome.

By the way, if Irfan was in the organization, ID&T was 100% there, he was the man behind thunderdome back then (as partially nowadays). I remember a talk I had with him LIVE, he clearly told me it was amazing thunderdome went to tons of places, even australia. Nothing like first hand info.

So yes, those raves were official, yes the CD is authorized by ID&T (altough it's a cheap ass release), and yes it's thunderdome - it's rare, that's only due to low pressing. It's quite known in Australia really.

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:21:

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Not what I heard from the people who MADE the CD. I can tell you these were Thunderdome on Tour with ID&T sponsor because I do have the flyers ( I think you too) with the ID&T and thunderdome logos, and on the thunderdome booklets it does show up australia as thunderdome on tour. In fact in old info you can see thunderdome toured australia in 1995 and 1996. Enrave CD is from 1995. 1997 is another year, that year no thunderdome, if there were fake thunderdomes, I have never seen the flyer.
Dreamteam on Tour was used on thudnerdome events and in other events not thunderdome.

By the way, if Irfan was in the organization, ID&T was 100% there, he was the man behind thunderdome back then (as partially nowadays). I remember a talk I had with him LIVE, he clearly told me it was amazing thunderdome went to tons of places, even australia. Nothing like first hand info.

So yes, those raves were official, yes the CD is authorized by ID&T (altough it's a cheap ass release), and yes it's thunderdome - it's rare, that's only due to low pressing. It's quite known in Australia really.

We all you think your way, and i think my way.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:32:

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We all you think your way, and i think my way.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 21:28:

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so Thunder Down under cd is not official a Thunderdome cd for sure.
This cd is press without authorisation from ID&T.
But they just don’t make a big problem about this cd because it was free promotion for them.

If ID&T let them, it's official, same happened with Thunderdome 1, 2, 3, not oficial, ID&T let Arcade do it, official.
But event still, in this case, the cd had the sets of the people who played at that Thunderdome event (you and me have the flyer, says thunderdome, not Dreamteam), Irfan was there, in fact most of the thunderdome old djs were there... and thunderdome australia tour? it was annouced in other flyers of thunderdome. I think even thundermagazine mentions it.
I am 100% sure it's official, like I told you, I talked to the sources.

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:45:

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If ID&T let them, it's official, same happened with Thunderdome 1, 2, 3, not oficial, ID&T let Arcade do it, official.
But event still, in this case, the cd had the sets of the people who played at that Thunderdome event (you and me have the flyer, says thunderdome, not Dreamteam), Irfan was there, in fact most of the thunderdome old djs were there... and it was annouced in other flyers of thunderdome. I think even thundermagazine mentions it.
I am 100% sure it's official, like I told you, I talked to the sources.

Same like my Thunderdome I, II, III & IV posters are fake in your opinion.

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:21:

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thudnerdome

And its Thunderdome! not thudnerdome

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:46:

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Same like my Thunderdome I, II, III & IV posters are fake in your opinion.

IV and I i don't know. II and III all I can tell is that the seller got them from someone who told all the posters he had were copies made for ID&T display way after 1993... 1998/99 and beyond. He says all are originals from ID&T, btu copied for display. Very funny story. Now it's up to you to decide, not me.
I am just being your friend and warning, I could shut up... maybe I would do better?
But I don't see any relation with Australia Thunderdome CD.
By the way, Thunderdome released another CD in 1996 (Thunderdome 12) and 1997 (Thunderdome 18) in aussieland, beside the down under thunderdome cd in 1995.

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 00:44:

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IV and I i don't know. II and III all I can tell is that the seller got them from someone who told all the posters he had were copies made for ID&T display way after 1993... 1998/99 and beyond. He says all are originals from ID&T, btu copied for display. Very funny story. Now it's up to you to decide, not me.

You get this story from a guy that have a drugs problem, like i say you before.
I was at his place 3 times. From the money he make with selling the items he pay the rent for his house.
But you can see the posters in December when you maybe go to Thunderdome at the Jaarbeurs.
Now they are put in a list at the store where i buy the list.
I can not take them out. They are Vacuum. They take out the oxigen.

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 00:44:

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Thunderdome released another CD in 1996 (Thunderdome 12) and 1997 (Thunderdome 18) in aussieland,

I dont talk about the cds they release, there are more id&t cd releases from downunder like you know.
I know that cds

Ik ben opzoek naar oude Muziek / Party / Rave magazines.
Is er iemand die mij hierbij kan helpen.
Natuurlijk tegen een schappelijke vergoeding.
In het bijzonder zoek ik bladen uit de volgende landen:
German, Espana, France, Australian, German and Belgium magazines.
Uit België zoek ik speciaal afleveringen van het blad "out soon"
Als er iemand is die me kan en wil helpen PB me even.
Hier onder staan 4 foto's uit mijn eigen collectie als voorbeeld,
wat voor bladen ik bedoel.

I'm search for old rave magazines. Is there someone like to help me with.
I search for magazines all over the world.
Special: German, Espana, France, Australian, German and Belgium magazines.
From Belgium I Search special the magazine "out soon"
So is there is someone that like to help me, please send private massage?
For example I put 4 pictures below, from my own collection.

heb een vraagje ik zoek al tijdje naar het groen witte soccershirt van thunderdome met hardcore terrorist erop wie ken me daarbij helpen?

Uitspraak van actief op dinsdag 9 juni 2009 om 22:45:

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I am 100% sure it's official, like I told you, I talked to the sources.

Its not an official joao...You know I've asked the people of ID&T myselve,they asked colleges including Irfan himselves as wel:all to one conclusion:It's not an official thunderdome or ID&T release.
What does it matter any way...I've heard its a nice cd.
besides that its a piece of history that does(in a way) belong to a thunderdome collection to make it all compleete...thats my oppinion and I would love to have it as wel,just not a must as a thunderdome item....becourse its not.
And its still fuckin'rare joao

ps:nice research olav

Uitspraak van NLLeeuw op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 11:47:

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ps:nice research olav

Thanks Gabber

Uitspraak van NLLeeuw op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 11:47:

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Its not an official joao...You know I've asked the people of ID&T myselve,they asked colleges including Irfan himselves as wel:all to one conclusion:It's not an official thunderdome or ID&T release.
What does it matter any way...I've heard its a nice cd.
besides that its a piece of history that does(in a way) belong to a thunderdome collection to make it all compleete...thats my oppinion and I would love to have it as wel,just not a must as a thunderdome item....becourse its not.
And its still fuckin'rare joao

Still official to me: if ID&T allowed it and was livesets from the djs who played at the event, which was an ID&T event, with dreamteam, and with members of ID&T present, and with the flyer artwork (!), zero doubt. Specially with no copyright in Australia from Arcade yet in 1995. And still the most wanted CD of thunderdome along with 97 megamix, that does not change... wonder if it matters in this case.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 09:51:

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Special: German, Espana, France, Australian, German and Belgium magazines.

there was a portuguese one, if I find I send to you.

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 15:22:

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there was a portuguese one.

are there porktuguese rave magazines?

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 15:22:

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if I find I send to you.

Uitspraak van ThunderdomeUtreg op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 16:01:

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are there porktuguese rave magazines?

I am like 90% certain there was one with like 3 issues or so, but never seen it again. I try to find it here and ask friends. Portuguese have a great trance and house scene, but hardcore... lol

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 16:42:

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Portuguese have a great trance and house scene, but hardcore... lol

nothing more to say...
but wappie b-day joao

Happy B-day for the biggest thunderdome collector...

João, parabéns pelo seu aniversário!!!

happy b-day

Uitspraak van P-T-W op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 19:35:

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Happy B-day for the biggest thunderdome collector...

i don´t have b-day today *haha*

FOR SALE:

Original Thunderdome VII & IX cassettes / tapes.
Of both tape 1 and 2.

Interested? PM.

jeej td boxen best of 97 en hardcore will never die zijn binnen

Uitspraak van P-T-W op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 19:35:

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Happy B-day for the biggest thunderdome collector...

Uitspraak van 1 step short op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 19:48:

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João, parabéns pelo seu aniversário!!!

Uitspraak van Gabber4Hardcore op woensdag 10 juni 2009 om 21:33:

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happy b-day

Thank you all guys! (and also the people who send email or private msg)

Uitspraak van actief op donderdag 11 juni 2009 om 15:35:

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Thank you all guys! (and also the people who send email or private msg)

Sorry, i didn't notice that you had you're birthday so one day later from my side: Happy Birthday!!!

Uitspraak van verwijderd op donderdag 11 juni 2009 om 15:55:

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Sorry, i didn't notice that you had you're birthday so one day later from my side: Happy Birthday!!!

np. Thanks too.

En alweer een thunderdome verzamelaar jarig

Gefeliciteerd Nlleeuw,de grootste verzamelaar

Uitspraak van P-T-W op donderdag 11 juni 2009 om 17:11:

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En alweer een thunderdome verzamelaar jarig

Happy birthday.

Uitspraak van verwijderd op donderdag 11 juni 2009 om 15:55:

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one day later from my side

One day more and we go out again

Ot.
Kon ze niet laten leggen.
Hij wou er €2,- pst. voor hebben.
Maar heb het kunnen afronden op €10,- voor alles 6.
Mooie koop toch of niet?