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"When everything falls into place"

The pink laces of your hood are hanging over the keyboard.
I look at you in the monitor, we don't need to talk for a while.
It's been long days alone, but than still that moment.

Elvis' ''Blue Suede Shoes'' is on. Soflty you're humming with it.
Hard beats my heart, I'm holding on. Time is round and finite.
Your eyes disappear with my eyes in the black of the screen.

For a while we have no voice. For a while the air is tamed.
It's like red wine by candlelight. It's good.

It's how things always have been.
"Troika charged with exploitation Cypriots"

What I would like is that if a store, company or institution that is in the common interest (such as a nationalized bank, university, insurance, pension, hospital or care home) makes a profit, that profit comes back into the purse (of the customer, student, insured, retired, patient or cared for).

In other words, I think it's fine if the IMF, the ECB, and the nationalized banks charge interest, solely to cover the costs, but to me they can not make a profit, because they act out of the common interest, thus enriching themselves, would make the community poorer. In practice, a Cypriot sort of speak works two hours extra to have the same amount of money left and the money that one earned goes to the Troika, which keeps our Dutch (Westerners) stupid by not changing too much to our allowance, or our retirement, our insurance, our school cost, and medical care costs, meanwhile, the entrepreneur in Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Ireland or Italy is crooked, more work for the same money and the profit goes to the rich, it has to stop, so I would like for the public sector to proclaim an overall forbid on profit in the social interest of the community.

I hope that citizens' initiatives at the European court of human rights will contribute to this, that we as a society no longer take it that the rich get richer and the poor getting poorer.


Is signed,


Hasta la Pasta 04/04/2013
Dear Sir or Madam,

I would like the following texts for you to highlight,
in the hope to find a solution to the impasse in which we live.
The questions are clearly marked with a question mark,
the opinions or observations end with a period.
Please take all the time you need to read the following texts
and give a possible answer, I do not expect a quick response.

" Responsible behavior "

In a free world you are allowed to make mistakes, but it's not appreciated or accounted for.

Respect human and animal rights, stop the repression, accept each other's differences, give everyone the freedom to
choose what he or she wants. Learn to forgive. Let not another fall victim of your own actions. Look closely at each other's
neighbors, don't close your eyes to injustice.

Changing the world, I can not do alone. How can you determine a fair value for a product or service? Where is it
based on? And how is it fair? Who says what a loaf of bread cost? Or how much someone gets paid per hour of work?
What is the investment? What is the result? What is the advantage? Not only for the seller but also for consumers.

Responsibility is of common interest, and consumers must choose and think, and the seller must itself be fair and
reasonable.

(In other words, things are not too expensive and not too cheap, it must be good and / or healthy, at an
appropriate hourly wage manufactured or finished and it must not be at the expense of the quality of the
environment.)

Altogether, the presence or development of an atomic bomb, biological weapon and chemical weapon, in addition to
the existing firearms, within the reasoning of this text -, actually is appointed as irresponsible (towards the
community).

(What eventually, probably after much fuss? leads to the insight that the increasing violence particularly within
the Middle East will, like a smoldering fire, take on to parts of Europe, Asia, Africa and therefore America, both
North and South, and that we never should have started this whole war.)

The threat of terror alongside those of a nuclear war are so extreme that I as a simple earthling would like the
politics of fear (particularly Israel, Iran, North Korea and America) immediately to stop and that we start thinking
about possible solutions to the crisis.

(Instead from blaming each other for the misery. To begin we could just say sorry, I did not know you were afraid
and had so much grief. Let's help each other, support and stop fighting over bread, power, money, religion or a
job.)

After all, we all are equal. A cause for celebration.

"Non-profit system"

A historian at Pauw and Witteman said last night: " My thesis is an ode to capitalism, but I think that we must get
rid off our profit system " W: " It's welfare, not wealth " " Yes, that is the old idea, but we must now look how
we can better ourselves, more sustainable, more efficient without growth "

The funny thing is that I also am thinking about a nonprofit ideal (cost price + 0), where someone is making
money, but not only enriched him- or herself, you could consider research cost and development cost also all just
part of the total cost price.

The result is that on the other side of the coin (the customer, consumer, world) the one which is dependent on
your service or product will get exactly the price which it will cost you. In other words, by stopping the
enriching, the impoverment stops on the other side, to keep the possibility of growth still maintained we would need
to go to a non-profit system, I think, where everyone works at cost price.

What exactly that total cost is, is again depending on the basic cost of living of the staff plus the costs
incurred by the store, the company or the institution itself to actually supply the requested products or services
safe and sustainable.

The total cost divided by the number of hours worked results than in a fair hourly wage for both the worker and
the client.

This means therefore that the leadership, responsible for the safety and durability, also only should work at cost
price, and thus that may mean that if the risk factor and the environmental stressors are low in the total cost of
the product or service that the manager in this case deserves as much as his or her employees.


>> Then the question: what are basic costs?
Fly trips to six million? luck with your company, Mr. Marx!

> This I wrote 5 September 2012 on the site www.partyflock.nl :
Discussion Topic: Global Economy in 2011 Forum:
Society & community September 5, 2012 1:29

"The FARC is coming to Oslo: I do not want to command "

We die here in prosperity, they live in poverty. For the law, everyone is equal, but for the government everyone is
not. If you think logically you know that the burden should be distributed equally as possible and thereby there
should be a challenge to a better future. This means that if someone is going to earn more, he or she must bear
more load off, but obviously not as much as what happens in Cuba by corruption (I guess?) in exploiting its own
people at the expense of individual freedom. Therefore I seek a middle ground where capitalism and communism come
together into a new democratic international system based on social-liberal ideology. It is a simplification of the
existing system which very much is already good about it.

It will mean that all basic needs are freely accessible at 1 new VAT rate on products and services of 50%, other
taxes such as excise taxes, charges and fees are abolished, because everyone pays an equal share to the maintenance
of society, where life is life and not survive.

For clarity, no childcare costs, no school fees, no sports fees, no health coverage (no contribution, no
deductible, no insurance), no public transportation cost, no legal fees, no energy cost, no housing cost, no municipal
contribution, no water monopoly, no security subsidy, no border fees, no clean up (environment) allowance, no
cultural attachment. Everything that humans and animals need to survive is freely available for the exchange of
paying 50% tax on goods and services at the responsibility of the state.


>> This prints of yours, may provide useful guidance for poetry: just write so tight and 'simple', combine them
together and create a beautiful book. 'Cause, you're very busy to profile yourself, but you must if you're in the
picture is something to show that the critical investigation. It's not really easy! At this time your prose is
better than your poetry.

Try not to go too fast, pull quiet ten years out, Jan Eijkelboom debuted at 50th, Jan Gerard Toonder when he was
back in the 70s. Der mouw na zijn dood.

Go well!
good luck!

> Thank you. I have my second book 'keihard bidden' with my own illustrations available by post. I also think of "the
poetry newspaper" where other internet poets and writers have the opportunity to be read in the streets with a free
(non-profit) newspaper that first locally at the bookshop, library and cinema will be available (for the promotion
of free speech), while I still think a third '?' book and a fourth "everything is an opinion 'philosophical
statement about what I'm used to doing in recent years, thinking of a better and fairer world, where life is life
and not survive.

"work hard, feel better"

profit inhibits growth
quality costs money
count your cost, count your hours
if you sell a lot or work a lot
you earn more
(or less if you sell less or work less)
if you make expensive things or deliver expensive services
you also earn more
(than if you make cheap things or deliver cheap services)

in other words,

I'm not after your income,
who is doing a good job is getting well paid -
but your profit,
the mere enrichment
that I want to stop
to also stop the impoverment
on the other side

"Most reliable competitive edge"

And I might even have not made it clear enough that the non-profit situation (cost price + 0) is the best
competitive position there is, because on the one hand, there will be no lawsuits for exploitation (probably in the
form of profit tax) and on the other hand, no lawsuits for environmental pollution (probably in the form of quality
tax), in other words, fair trade and a good product or service is purely social in the broadest support, and
because the rules are not exceeded and the customer or employee share a fair price with the seller or the employer.

So, nonprofit: Not too expensive and quality. The result is an honest product or a fair service, so safe and
durable. Resulting in reliability for both the customer or the vendor and employee or employer. On both sides of
the coin a polite smile is grateful for what he or she deserves and receives.

"Troika charged with exploitation Cypriots"

What I would like is that if a store, company or institution that is in the common interest (such as a nationalized
bank, university, insurance, pension, hospital or care home) makes a profit, that this profit comes back into the purse
(of the customer, student, insured, retired, patient or cared for).

In other words, I think it's fine if the IMF, the ECB, and the nationalized banks charge interest, solely to cover
the costs, but to me they can not make a profit, because they act out of the common interest, thus enriching
themselves, would make the community poorer. In practice, a Cypriot sort of speak works two hours extra to have
the same amount of money left, and the money that one earned goes to the Troika, which keeps us Dutch (Westerners)
stupid by not changing too much to our allowance, or our retirement, our insurance, our school cost, and medical
care costs, meanwhile, the entrepreneur in Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland or Italy is crooked, more work for the
same money, and the profit goes to the rich, it has to stop, so I would like for the public sector to proclaim an
overall forbid on profit in the social interest of the community.

I hope that citizens' initiatives at the European court of human rights will contribute to this, that we as a
society no longer take it that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

"How to charge profit tax and how to charge quality tax, next to the new VAT rate of 50% ?"

- Tax profit part of income of the free sector with a sliding scale (so not the total income of the free sector)

- Price of the product per kilogram clean water needed to safely produce the product.


Is signed,

Hasta la Pasta 07/04/2013
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How to charge profit tax and how to charge quality tax, next to the new VAT rate of 50%.

After that, this text will probably be finalized.
- Tax profit part of income of the free sector with a sliding scale (so not the total income of the free sector)

- Price of the product per kilogram clean water needed to safely produce the product.
In a free world you are allowed to make mistakes, but it's not appreciated or accounted for.
>>>>>

See my posts at FOK! forum... You may use my logo if you like. It means: capitalism is financial fascism. So, a geuze flag.

>

I actually want capitalism en communism to flow together to this new social-liberal model or system which I've described, that is based on neo-democratic ideas, comparable with the ordinary democracy where everyone may vote, just than with the extra choice: a weapon or a vote. With other words, or you chose for a weapon or you chose for a vote, thus people that carry weapons may not vote in the neo-democratic system.
>

Free Syrian Army may have non-lethal defensive weapons, if there are already good weapons, then that are weapons where the people and animals in the world run less risk and where it's making it safer for them.
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Free Joran
"About the price of a product"

The safe and sustainable production of goods taxes the quality of the environment. Nowadays, the price of a product is, I believe, based on the already declining gold and silver prices, in addition to the prices of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas, so luxury scarce resources, I suggest the whole system to be thrown over and to base everything on the amount of kilograms of clean water (which is abundant) needed to produce a product secure and sustainable. Only in dry areas (like Africa) water would then still be relatively scarce but abundant in relation to fossil fuels, gold and silver. Another alternative is to base all product prices on a liter of clean air.

For example, 1 MWh electricity costs X kilogram clean water to produce safe and durable. The price of one kilogram of clean water is for example, Y furore (dollar, real, euro, roebel, dinar, equaal, asia or pound), then that 1 MWh of electricity cost X [kilogram clean water] * Y [furore / kilogram clean water] = Z [furore] (dollar, real, euro, roebel, dinar, equaal, asia or pound) to produce secure and sustainable.

In other words, the MWh price is directly linked to the price of clean water that is present in abundance.

(That's why I think that no one on may have a clean water monopoly or oligopoly, otherwise the system is still dictated by the clean water owner or owners)

A similar calculation can be made on the basis of the price of a liter of clean air.
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"Honest banks"

Actually I find that banks simply have to pay interest on the money (we) his or her customers have on the accounts (regardless of whether it is a savings account or a revolving account), in that way you as a bank also stimulate customers to don't take up too much money and give the customer what he or she is entitled to. As banks make money from the money (we) his or her customers have deposited.

In contrast, the bank ensures the safety of the money of his or her clients and if the bank has a good track record, it also is a sustainable place for his or her clients to save their money. Moreover, the bank also provides service for example by an ATM or ATM card. The bank would of course also be justified to incur the costs they make to safety, durability and service with the interest paid on the money in the accounts of 🇺🇸 his or her customers.

Nevertheless, I know that these costs are relatively small compared to the money that banks and public enterprises earn by the interest they receive from large sums of money that they first temporarily are holding them self before they pay out. I therefore believe that profits should come back in wallets of 🇺🇸 his or her bank customers.

Hence I find there must always be an interest payment on the money that a customer is holding into his or her account.
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"Done with nonsense"

We look through the fingers,
that's why they get away with it.

The bank mob, stock pirates, federal criminals.

With the head in the sand sitting on the pennies,
not thinking of the common interest,
the duty to treat each other honest,
to give what we deserve.

Every time still bending the rules,
yes we are free,
but rules against abuse of freedom aren't there enough,
every day still we see the injustice,
on the street, on TV, in the newspaper, on internet.
It seems like we're too stupid
to believe the truth.

Nonsense we say, it's just the way it is.

We should once ask our selves whether or not we want to settle for that?
Whether or not we want us to be robed, be lied to, be exploited, be discriminated?

Maybe we are used to letting our selves be ran over,
are we thinking: ‘Ah, it's not so bad.’

But that's the point, because we stay asleep,
the 1% thieves, manipulators, slave drivers, criminals
continue to penalize the 98 % ‘ordinary’ people.

That 1 % that is able to think, must awaken the ‘mass’
and prevent that the other 1 % does not let the mass fall asleep again.

The assignment to us is to make work from that.
An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
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A bit off topic, but a little annoying still: The coming five years, "The Ministry of development, culture and science" pulls out 2.5 million for founding of the Caribbean Netherlands Science Institute." A professor was allowed to stay there for half a year to find out how the housing must be organised. Goal of this institute: oceanographic measurements on the bank of Saba." Does something like that now really has a priority?

>

I was already afraid of that, I now have thought of that non profit system and written down that research and development costs also may just be counted as cost price, and then these 'federal criminals' start thinking of something like that, in my eyes it's all just a way to avoid taxes, just like that, lately there also went 30 million to rheumatism research, 7 scientists and a management that is able to divide 30 million like that, it's like I've written in this poem, yes we're free, but rules against abuse of freedom aren't there yet enough.
"You have right to your right"

I think that people that still believe in liberalism want to go back to the wild west, because they forget the added value of working together and how the community can lower the cost on an individual level.

I think that people that still believe in socialism want to go back to the cold war, because they forget the danger of conspiracy and how eavesdropping can limit the freedom of the individual.

That's why I for a while already believe in liberal socialism, I live in a new age where there is being worked together by the community and where you as an individual get the space to develop yourself in complete freedom, without conspiracy or eavesdropping of the government, banks, stock traders, insurers, pension funds, police and army, without unnecessary cost to corruption or fraud or other forms of abuse of the freedom that is given to me.

In my social liberal world everything is regulated honestly, open en transparent, everybody gets what he or she deserves.

"Life, freedom and the food and fruits of labor."
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Summarized in a few words where we all must be going to, if only we would once renounce our confounded "beliefs" of the past. I think most people want to, but do not know how to realize it. It is a battle with vested interests.
 
>
 
I hear that more often >>>>> as I wrote myself in an earlier post I do not want a political party or a bank, I prefer writing, but we can as citizens undertake initiatives to achieve that goal though, the Social liberal Party (SLP) and the non profit Bank (NPB), it's on paper, now just the implementation. If someone feels called to let me know then you can put my name to the idea and put the deed to the word.
"Better someone next to me, than someone that follows me."

- M.C. Hewitt

Like you can't stop your tears from falling, you can't stop people from communicating.
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"About George Orwell's Animal farm"


Perhaps George Orwell himself was the human in his book 'The Animal Farm', he writes about the sheep, dogs and pigs, ie. the followers (the tame people), the barkers (the politicians, the police, the army and managers) and the lazy rich (the established order, bosses of industry, the ones you never see but want to determine everything, the exploiters, aristocrats), I was asked what animal I wanted to be, none of them of course, I'm like George Orwell, a human, I do not want to follow, do not want to bark and do not want to be lazy and rich, but do want to take care of everyone, whether those sheep really follow, those dogs really bark and / or those pigs really are lazy and rich or not.

The black sheep (the rebel, freedom fighter) was also discussed, but I think that is not the solution to challenge the established order, the best way as a black sheep (if there is such a thing as a black sheep) to reach your goal is to appeal to the normal 'white' sheep so that they through rules and laws themselves disfavor the behavior of the 'dogs' and 'pigs'. In that view, I wrote earlier about 'informed consent' which for me at the moment means something like that you as a seller have the duty to be honest about your product or service, like a package leaflet with a drug, for example, the only way to achieve something within the established order is to adjust something within the laws and rules of the system itself, which counters the abuse of those laws and rules within that system, like the name of god is often abused by the government to go to war, or just like shops, businesses and institutions currently do to me, using and abusing my sentences, phrases, rules, thoughts, fantasies and ideas without refunding me at the expense of the 'obedient' people.

But perhaps any minister feels himself or herself embarrassed to admit that he or she has not thought of those things all by himself or herself.
with great freedom comes great responsibility
"Be happy I'm telling you"

When I first smoked a joint as a 18 year old, it did not say that it's addictive or bad for health and people even said that smoking cannabis is not addictive and if you smoked it pure it was not unhealthy, now know I better drugs are addictive and unhealthy, it's that simple, just like alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods and sugary drinks, none of these products are warning labels, signs or prints that tell me as a consumer about the bad effects of consuming these products, just as there is no information on the products about the good effects of consuming these products, I understand that with what I want the packages are going to be more expensive, but if I can no more be saved from the weed, maybe the generation after me can, with that I just think it's the responsibility of the seller to be honest about his or her service or product, so in other words, honestly it is the duty of the Food and Drugs Authority to oversee the sale of addictive and unhealthy products such as alcohol, drugs, tobacco, fatty foods and sugary drinks, with that it should set legal requirements and standards, next to that it's also my understanding that it's the duty of the sellers to inform the consumers about the consequences of consuming these products through warning labels, signs or prints and if they wish they can also mention the benefits of consuming these products, which must of course also be possible, I want a as fair as possible story about everything I use, there have not been a number of lawsuits for nothing about 'smoking' in America, that's what we can do the same with alcohol, drugs, fatty foods and sugary drinks, while I find it (and I think with me many others) nice to be informed about the consequences of consuming products, I see it as a kind of duty of the government, the public, to fully inform each other on the sale of services or products.
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Everyone should be filing complaints at the Food and Drugs Authority, that we (as public) weren't informed on the product itself that alcohol, drugs, tobacco, fatty foods and sugary drinks are addictive and unhealthy.
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first shoot the bear, than chose the price.
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half for the group, half for yourself
separation of bank and state

profit or no profit.
Separation of bank and state

Whether you believe or not,
chose for profit or a weapon or not,
nobody should close his or her eyes
for injustice.

The government is suppose to concentrate itself
on where it really is responsible for:

The well being and the safety of human and animal,
the quality of the environment
and countering all possible damage.

So that everyone at least survives,
on basis of the right to life.

The government is the community,
the community are we,

In the interest of the citizen
they protect our freedom,

therefor we may be thankful,
in the form of just 50% tax,

Half for the group,
and half for yourself.
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: “if we want for all humans and animals a honest and justified world now, then we should also make work of it now."

What do you understand by a honest and justified world?

>

Thank you for asking, I understand by a honest and justified world:

A world where you are protected against all possible injustice:

Like murder, rape, exploitation, threat, deception, abuse, slander,
vice, kidnapping, betrayal, discrimination, cynicism and oppression.

In other words a world where you do not have the fear to be:

murdered, raped, exploited, threatened, misled,
abused, harassed, wrongly put into a bad daylight,
wrongly limited in our freedom, wrongly not taken seriously,
discriminated, cynically treated or feel that we have to do things
that go against our feeling for honesty and justice.

A world where the government protects the innocent,
and gets the guilty fined or behind bars.

Where everyone has responsibility
and everyone gets where he or she is entitled to,

I think that that is possible in a

"common neo democratic freedom"

which means that everyone pays 50% tax
to the United States of the World
and that all other tax rules are abolished.

For that 50% tax everyone gets what he or she needs to survive,
this on basis of the right to life, (take what you need)

(By the way I have thought off that 50% tax to prevent all forms of fraud and corruption)

You have what you have.
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"The common neo democratic freedom"

I feel a little bit like Martin Luther King today. We may have the fear to be murdered, raped, exploited, threatened, misled, abused, harassed, wrongly put into a bad daylight, wrongly limited in our freedom, wrongly not taken seriously, discriminated, cynically treated or feel that we have to do things that go against our feeling for honesty and justice. Therefore people file complaints in court, report to the police, respect the law, have confidence in the legal system.

We abolish everything, land borders disappear. You have the right to life, a weapon or a vote and if you behave responsibly and comply with that law, you have the right to freedom, profit or no profit, and if you have a honest and responsible attitude to your customers, you have the right to the viands and fruits of labor:

Food, drink, shelter, care, education, identity, defense and social security, police, fire brigade, doctors, infrastructure, judges and army. Everyone pays half to the United States of the World, responsible for the well being and the safety of all people and animals.

You have the right to your right, thus that you have the right to protection against possible injustice: Such as murder, rape, exploitation, threat, deception, abuse, slander, vice, kidnapping, betrayal, discrimination, cynicism and oppression.

Summarized in the term 'social liberalism', the common neo democratic freedom, "50% tax and everyone happy and safe in a honest and righteous way" If you stand behind this plan, organize, form the Social Liberal Party, ensure that people's representatives speak this message, with enough political support we can achieve our goal in a honest, righteous way. Everyone has responsibility and everyone gets what he or she deserves.

So you too!
"Bob Marley said it already: Stand up for yourself!"

As citizen you must stand up for yourself,
You have right to your right,
the government is there to protect the innocent
and to get the guilty fined or behind bars,
but if you as a citizen say nothing
then also nothing happens,

so do you have the fear to be murdered?
to be raped?
to be exploited?
to be threatened?
to be misled?
to be abused?
to be harassed?
to be wrongly put into a bad daylight?
to be wrongly limited in your freedom?
to be wrongly not taken seriously?
to be discriminated?
to be treated cynically ?
or do you have the feeling that you must do things
that go against your feeling for justice and honesty?

Stand up for yourself, as long as we look through the fingers,
they keep getting way with it.

Justice, honesty is the way.
Dear Sir or Madam,

I would like the following texts for you to highlight, in the hope to find a solution to the impasse in which we live. The questions are clearly marked with a question mark, the opinions or observations end with a period. Please take all the time you need to read the following texts and give a possible answer, I do not expect a quick response.

" Responsible behavior "

In a free world you are allowed to make mistakes, but it's not appreciated or accounted for.

Respect human and animal rights, stop the repression, accept each other's differences, give everyone the freedom to choose what he or she wants. Learn to forgive. Let not another fall victim of your own actions. Look closely at each other's neighbors, don't close your eyes to injustice.

Changing the world, I can not do alone. How can you determine a fair value for a product or service? Where is it based on? And how is it fair? Who says what a loaf of bread cost? Or how much someone gets paid per hour of work? What is the investment? What is the result? What is the advantage? Not only for the seller but also for consumers.

Responsibility is of common interest, and consumers must choose and think, and the seller must itself be fair and reasonable.

(In other words, things are not too expensive and not too cheap, it must be good and / or healthy, at an appropriate hourly wage manufactured or finished and it must not be at the expense of the quality of the environment.)

Altogether, the presence or development of an atomic bomb, biological weapon and chemical weapon, in addition to the existing firearms, within the reasoning of this text -, actually is appointed as irresponsible (towards the community).

(What eventually, probably after much fuss? leads to the insight that the increasing violence particularly within the Middle East will, like a smoldering fire, take on to parts of Europe, Asia, Africa and therefore America, both North and South, and that we never should have started this whole war.)

The threat of terror alongside those of a nuclear war are so extreme that I as a simple earthling would like the politics of fear (particularly Israel, Iran, North Korea and America) immediately to stop and that we start thinking about possible solutions to the crisis.

(Instead from blaming each other for the misery. To begin we could just say sorry, I did not know you were afraid and had so much grief. Let's help each other, support and stop fighting over bread, power, money, religion or a job.)

After all, we all are equal. A cause for celebration.


"Non-profit system"

A historian at Pauw and Witteman said last night: " My thesis is an ode to capitalism, but I think that we must get rid off our profit system " W: " It's welfare, not wealth " " Yes, that is the old idea, but we must now look how we can better ourselves, more sustainable, more efficient without growth "

The funny thing is that I also am thinking about a nonprofit ideal (cost price + 0), where someone is making money, but not only enriched him- or herself, you could consider research cost and development cost also all just part of the total cost price.

The result is that on the other side of the coin (the customer, consumer, world) the one which is dependent on your service or product will get exactly the price which it will cost you. In other words, by stopping the enriching, the impoverment stops on the other side, to keep the possibility of growth still maintained we would need to go to a non-profit system, I think, where everyone works at cost price.

What exactly that total cost is, is again depending on the basic cost of living of the staff plus the costs incurred by the store, the company or the institution itself to actually supply the requested products or services safe and sustainable.

The total cost divided by the number of hours worked results than in a fair hourly wage for both the worker and the client.

This means therefore that the leadership, responsible for the safety and durability, also only should work at cost price, and thus that may mean that if the risk factor and the environmental stressors are low in the total cost of the product or service that the manager in this case deserves as much as his or her employees.


>> Then the question: what are basic costs?
Fly trips to six million? luck with your company, Mr. Marx!

> This I wrote 5 September 2012 on the site www.partyflock.nl :
Discussion Topic: Global Economy in 2011 Forum:
Society & community September 5, 2012 1:29

"The FARC is coming to Oslo: I do not want to command "

We die here in prosperity, they live in poverty. For the law, everyone is equal, but for the government everyone is not. If you think logically you know that the burden should be distributed equally as possible and thereby there should be a challenge to a better future. This means that if someone is going to earn more, he or she must bear more load off, but obviously not as much as what happens in Cuba by corruption (I guess?) in exploiting its own people at the expense of individual freedom. Therefore I seek a middle ground where capitalism and communism come together into a new democratic international system based on social-liberal ideology. It is a simplification of the existing system which very much is already good about it.

It will mean that all basic needs are freely accessible at 1 new tax rate on products and services of 50%, other taxes such as excise taxes, charges and fees are abolished, because everyone pays an equal share to the maintenance of society, where life is life and not survive.

For clarity, no childcare costs, no school fees, no sports fees, no health coverage (no contribution, no deductible, no insurance), no public transportation cost, no legal fees, no energy cost, no housing cost, no municipal contribution, no water monopoly, no security subsidy, no border fees, no clean up (environment) allowance, no cultural attachment. Everything that humans and animals need to survive is freely available for the exchange of paying 50% tax on goods and services at the responsibility of the state.


>> This prints of yours, may provide useful guidance for poetry: just write so tight and 'simple', combine them together and create a beautiful book. 'Cause, you're very busy to profile yourself, but you must if you're in the picture is something to show that the critical investigation. It's not really easy! At this time your prose is better than your poetry. Try not to go too fast, pull quiet ten years out, Jan Eijkelboom debuted at 50th, Jan Gerard Toonder when he was back in the 70s. Der mouw na zijn dood.

Go well!
good luck!

> Thank you. I have my second book 'keihard bidden' with my own illustrations available by post. I also think of "the poetry newspaper" where other internet poets and writers have the opportunity to be read in the streets with a free (non-profit) newspaper that first locally at the bookshop, library and cinema will be available (for the promotion of free speech), while I still think a third '?' book and a fourth "everything is an opinion 'philosophical statement about what I'm used to doing in recent years, thinking of a better and fairer world, where life is life and not survive.


"work hard, feel better"

profit inhibits growth
quality costs money
count your cost, count your hours
if you sell a lot or work a lot
you earn more
(or less if you sell less or work less)
if you make expensive things or deliver expensive services
you also earn more
(than if you make cheap things or deliver cheap services)

in other words,

I'm not after your income,
who is doing a good job is getting well paid -
but your profit,
the mere enrichment
that I want to stop
to also stop the impoverment
on the other side


"Most reliable competitive edge"

And I might even have not made it clear enough that the non-profit situation (cost price + 0) is the best competitive position there is, because on the one hand, there will be no lawsuits for exploitation (probably in the form of profit fines) and on the other hand, no lawsuits for environmental pollution (probably in the form of quality fines), in other words, fair trade and a good product or service is purely social in the broadest support, and because the rules are not exceeded and the customer or employee share a fair price with the seller or the employer.

So, nonprofit: Not too expensive and quality. The result is an honest product or a fair service, so safe and durable. Resulting in reliability for both the customer or the vendor and employee or employer. On both sides of the coin a polite smile is grateful for what he or she deserves and receives.


"Troika charged with exploitation Cypriots"

What I would like is that if a store, company or institution that is in the common interest (such as a nationalized bank, university, insurance, pension, hospital or care home) makes a profit, that this profit comes back into the purse (of the customer, student, insured, retired, patient or cared for).

In other words, I think it's fine if the IMF, the ECB, and the nationalized banks charge interest, solely to cover the costs, but to me they can not make a profit, because they act out of the common interest, thus enriching themselves, would make the community poorer. In practice, a Cypriot sort of speak works two hours extra to have the same amount of money left, and the money that one earned goes to the Troika, which keeps us Dutch (Westerners) stupid by not changing too much to our allowance, or our retirement, our insurance, our school cost, and medical care costs, meanwhile, the entrepreneur in Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland or Italy is crooked, more work for the same money, and the profit goes to the rich, it has to stop, so I would like for the public sector to proclaim an overall forbid on profit in the social interest of the community.

I hope that citizens' initiatives at the European court of human rights will contribute to this, that we as a society no longer take it that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.


"How to charge profit fines and how to charge quality fines, next to the new tax rate of 50% ?"

- Fine profit part of income of the free sector with a sliding scale (so not the total income of the free sector)

- Price of the product per kilogram clean water needed to safely produce the product.


"About the price of a product"

The safe and sustainable production of goods taxes the quality of the environment. Nowadays, the price of a product is, I believe, based on the already declining gold and silver prices, in addition to the prices of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas, so luxury scarce resources, I suggest the whole system to be thrown over and to base everything on the amount of kilograms of clean water (which is abundant) needed to produce a product secure and sustainable. Only in dry areas (like Africa) water would then still be relatively scarce but abundant in relation to fossil fuels, gold and silver. Another alternative is to base all product prices on a liter of clean air.

For example, 1 MWh electricity costs X kilogram clean water to produce safe and durable. The price of one kilogram of clean water is for example, Y furore (dollar, real, euro, roebel, dinar, equaal, asia or pound), then that 1 MWh of electricity cost X [kilogram clean water] * Y [furore / kilogram clean water] = Z [furore] (dollar, real, euro, roebel, dinar, equaal, asia or pounds) to produce secure and sustainable.

In other words, the MWh price is directly linked to the price of clean water that is present in abundance.

(That's why I think that no one on may have a clean water monopoly or oligopoly, otherwise the system is still dictated by the clean water owner or owners)

A similar calculation can be made on the basis of the price of a liter of clean air.


"The common neo democratic freedom"

I feel a little bit like Martin Luther King today. We may have the fear to be murdered, raped, exploited, threatened, misled, abused, harassed, wrongly put into a bad daylight, wrongly limited in our freedom, wrongly not taken seriously, discriminated, cynically treated or feel that we have to do things that go against our feeling for honesty and justice. Therefore people file complaints in court, report to the police, respect the law, have confidence in the legal system.

We abolish everything, land borders disappear. You have the right to life, a weapon or a vote and if you behave responsibly and comply with that law, you have the right to freedom, profit or no profit, and if you have a honest and responsible attitude to your customers, you have the right to the viands and fruits of labor:

Food, drink, shelter, care, education, identity, defense and social security, police, fire brigade, doctors, infrastructure, judges and army. Everyone pays half to the United States of the World, responsible for the well being and the safety of all people and animals.

You have the right to your right, thus that you have the right to protection against possible injustice: Such as murder, rape, exploitation, threat, deception, abuse, slander, vice, kidnapping, betrayal, discrimination, cynicism and oppression.

Summarized in the term 'social liberalism', the common neo democratic freedom, "50% tax and everyone happy and safe in a honest and righteous way" If you stand behind this plan, organize, form the Social Liberal Party, ensure that people's representatives speak this message, with enough political support we can achieve our goal in a honest, righteous way. Everyone has responsibility and everyone gets what he or she deserves.

So you too!

Is signed,

Hasta la Pasta 28/04/2013
what you want in English
"Sitting here, loving you"

Oehoe-oehoe! Sitting here.. Oehoe! Loving you!
Oehoe-oehoe-oehoe! yeah!
No obligations, Preferably yours.. Oehoe! Oehoe! (Yeah!)

Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! Oehoe! Oehoe!

No obligations, next to me.. Preferably yours,
(Yeah) just before..Oehoe! Oehoe!
The waves.... Oehoe! Oehoe! oehoe! (The waves, the waves, the waves)
'R turning.. Yeah!
'R turning, and turning, and turning.. Yeah! (yeah, yeah, yeah)

Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! Oehoe! Oehoe!

No obligations, next to me, just before the waves..
'R turning.. Yeah! (yeah, yeah, yeah)
Preferably yours.. Oehoe! Oehoe!
I see you.. Life is good,

Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! oehoe! oehoe!
(Oehoe, oehoe, oehoe)

Life is good.

Yeah! yeah! yeah! Oehoe! (Oehoe, oehoe, oehoe) Yeah!

Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! Oehoe! Oehoe! Yeah!
Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! Oehoe! Oehoe! yeah!
Sitting here, loving you! Oehoe! Oehoe! Oehoe! yeah!

(Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!) No obligations.. (oehoe, oehoe, oehoe) Life is good!
(Yeah! yeah! yeah!) I love you.. (oehoe, oehoe)

Life is good.
"The music"

We are the music.

And no matter..
How near,
or far..

We are the music.

The music..
Is who we are.
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:) If everything fails, try laughing at it.
Uitspraak van Hasta la Pasta op zondag 31 maart 2013 om 16:17:
can't fake love


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm4ZmXWYtV0


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"The right system"

The right system is like anarchism,
only with the difference that a law
is accepted within the right system,
where anarchism does not accept any law.
"Girlfriend"

A friend that is a girl
is a girlfriend
hence the expression.
"Silly things"

I can't be in Amsterdam and Bruxelles at the same time,
so today I'm staying in South Wales hoping to meet you half way,
because I know what happened, you didn't tell me, but believe me
I know, I just do. There's nothing you and I can do about it,
I guess we could pendle in between stories from the Netherlands
and Belgium, retreat to South Wales when I or we need to be alone,
I'm not going to say anything about it, this is how things go,
step by step, when your off guard, not watching, you lose anyway,
so this is the story from South Wales knowing you love me,
knowing I'm losing you, the only thing I see, is bright light
at the end of the tunnel, still can't believe that I let you slip
and still live with this strange fantasy, that actually your still,
still after all this time, your still mine and I am yours.

But why do these silly things still happen?

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I try, I try to understand,
but I don't know, I don't know.

I just don't know.
"Love and nonsense"


: || Everything is constantly subject to changes.
An accident is always found in a small corner,
but if you act quickly, disaster will be very small.


I'm a writer. Most writers have, I think, something with their selves.
They experience things and write about it. Like love for example.
They experience love and write about love.

Why should they write about love? Do they love their selves?
Are they in love with them selves or someone else?
What is this thing these writers need to write about
what they supposed to be doing and not be writing about?
Or maybe these writers have illnesses and need to write down their sick fantasies
to make them selves believe that their words are really true.

Like seeing the water and touching the water, it doesn't dissappear by not believing in it.

So the strange thing is that we as writers are always looking into the or 'a' mirror,
that's saying to us how stupid we are, ignorant, naief in thinking that we understand.

Off course, sometimes that we really do, but actually after each step we take,
we lose a little bit more ground and divide our selves up into even more and more solutions,
not knowing where the real 'we' starts and the fantasy 'we' ends.

We're somewhere on a straight line, that actually is curved -
and we don't know the end nor the beginning,
the most of us just or merely know we're not heading for disaster,
well at least not now, but (yeah) for how long will it last?

I don't know, because these are just words inside my head.
"Weird things happen up-side-down"

weird things happen, it's not always love that wins,
sometimes her war trumpet is louder than the beating of my heart,
sometimes it's better to fold, to regress, to leave
than to hold on to our new life, our new car,

sometimes things are better up-side-down,
resetting time the other way around,
weird, weird, weird things happen up-side-down,

sometimes it's better to fold, to regress, to leave
than to hold on to our new life, our new car,

sometimes things are better up-side-down.

It's not always love that wins. Weird things happen

up-side-down.
Dear Barrack,

Please stop your media offensive to go to war to Syria, they will handover their chemical weapons and an economic solution will be found. Violence like the death penalty is barbaristic, from a time that Adam said: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, as I today so, stop the slave-slavedriver-ratio, stop the dependency status, don't carf our face of civilization and find a peaceful solution where the weapons (yes also the chemical and nuclear off course) are removed from the table and people can live in peace, without knowing the truth.. that one day there was a poet who wrote to the president, saying that it's a bad idea to go to war if they are willing to undergo treatment, in that case we won't have to kill the criminals responsible for the many, many deaths, but we will keep them imprisoned, heal them and their victims, and we'll forgive them when we really want to, and not before that, and if they die before that, than that was their choice and faith, we are not responsible for for someone who wants to take his or her own life and we are not responsible for sick people's deeds which we cannot unturn, but where we are responsible for is the curing of these sick people with bad deeds, like those whom have used chemical weapons in Syria, or killed and raped a 23 year old student in New Delhi, some, some, some people really are sick, but they can be cured with a to the society fitted imprisonment, work-re-integration and living--re-integration that is suited to the impact of the dead in question, like harming a body is wrong, but taking a life is even more wrong, or stealing an apple is wrong, but cutting down an apple tree is even more wrong, I hope you and your supreme court can see the difference.

Treat them, don't harm them, that's just it.

Bye and good day,

Pieter.
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"less stress is more sex"

a little bit less tension is a lot more progression
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when it comes to love you don't think twice