verslag van Q-BASE (30 augustus 2008) door Alex Moulas

door Alex Moulas, gepubliceerd op

14 juni 2008

Feest	Q-BASE · From daylight into Darkness
Datum	zaterdag 30 augustus 2008
Locatie	Airport Weeze

Its been a while since I last wrote a "verslag" and I thought why not since I was on the party of the year but however something seem different. sorry for the English but this was an international party and well my Dutch needs some upgrading so here it goes.

So the story begins in Almere around 6 p.m. when I decide to go and pick up my friends and head to our 5th Q-base. After 2 hours of driving and a wrong detour we were @ the party site. parked the car . and went straight in since we were on the guest list

I managed to come in and listen to the last minutes to one of my favorite Hardstyle DJ`s. DJ Zany. Great beats as always and this guy always seems to have the best records in his bag at every party. So I thought to my self that this will be yet an other great Q-Base like I always knew it was. however. the night went differently then I thought

I was off to D-Block & E-Ste-Fan where a full hangar was jumping to the amazing beats in which they were playing very loud I must say. I could feel the bass through my whole body and the crowd seemed to be enjoying it as well. But I noticed something after a while which I didn`t like and well which I had also seen on Mysteyland. The hardstyle tracks have changed. There was bass and then it stopped and then there was melody which went down as well. MC talked a few lines. melody goes up and then the MC talks again and then 1 minute of bass and then. it was gone again

Now excuse me for being ignorant and arrogant which I am allowed to be since I was there since the first day that Hardstyle started back in 2001 (officially before I get quoted wrong in this site

)

This is not the music I fell in love with 7 years ago. Then it was continuous bass, continuous stampen , going crazy, singing along, and together with the DJ`s making it the music that it is today. One Music. One Family. I stood there the whole night from Area 1 to Area 2 to Area 3 to Area 4 and back to 3-2-1. and I heard everywhere the same. Whether the DJ was the Prophet or Frontliner it was the same to me. By the way Frontliner played some old tracks in which he does get credit but not enough to make up in what I was seeing or better yet hearing.

Now don`t get me wrong. I am a huge Q-Dance fan and I hold nothing against the organization since everything was arranged perfectly like always. Sounds, lasers, decoration, food, drinks, etc. Absolutely perfect

And I must thank them as well for having the GZG hide out in the back where I enjoyed my evening as well with those funky minimal beats

. However the quality of Hardstyle has dropped a lot in the last year and if they want this music to survive and be what it should be. I suggest they re-think their productions before making up a new track for the new generation to jump and listen to. What I heard last Saturday was Hard-hard Trance not Hardstyle

Unfortunately I didn`t have the chance to hear Alpha Twins & Deepack since the friends I was with were tired and well "sober" so I headed back to Holland not having the chance to draw my final conclusions about a party in which made me think differently about the music I love.

I have no idea if artists read this "verslag" and if they give a f**k if some Greek-American immigrant tells his opinion on how he thinks about the music they make and play. As a fan and as living though 7 years of party after party, I should have the right to criticize most of them ( Zany,Showtek, & A-Lusion are not included ). And I am sure there is more people who have been in the scence for years and see and hear what I see and must agree to this. I mean what happened to the "knallers-hits" like Shizzle my Dizzle, Porn, Cocaine MF, Disc Warrior, and Stampen in which left a era in the years which passed? Q-base 2006 was one big ass going crazy party ever. And now 2 years later it seemed like a lot had changed

Q-Dance did everything to make them big and bring them to the level in which they were today. They should respect that and give back to their fans like they use to do back in the days when it all started.

Anyway maybe I am just an old guy who cares too much about these things and says his opinion. Probably I will get criticized by all the young people in this site who recently started listening to hardstyle and tell me to stay home if I don`t like it

But maybe some people or DJ`s will read this and say I could be right.

Anyway. Q-Dance. thanks again

Hope that Hardstyle will go on through out the years and stay like it was. The people and the location were great

.

Hopefully Scantraxx will make everything okay again. See you all on the 4th of October.

Greetz,

Alexandros Starros

13 opmerkingen

And that's exectly why i dont like hardstyle for a long time anymore...

Only a vieuw dj's in the past played nice hardstyle for me. Dana was always going and going and then a dj after started, with breaks al the fucking time

... Finaly go crazy and 32 beats later standing still for a minut... After 30 minutes my legs just wont go anymore. (verzeuren)

Nice 'verslag'

hier word ik niet wies ut

Like u said allready.....

Better stay @ home... No, i'm just joking!
But the most silly thing out of ur comment is that you do like Zany, and for example A-Lusion, but whats so different then with these guys and their style??

A-Lusion is one of my fav's and if u r talking about "Hardstyle is more like Hard hardtrance nowadays" then how do you call the sound of A-Lusion??

If there is 1 DJ that puts lots of Melody combined with a fierce Kick in his music it's A-Lusion, so how do u call that then?? Hard hard hard trance??

If you don't like a kind of music ok that's possible, but stay on one line then and don't say that Zany etc etc don't play the Hardstyle u don't like. Because that's ballony

.... It all sounds often the same nowadays (that's right) and it's got (thank God..

) nothing more 2 do with the "older" Hardstyle from the start of 2001. And that opinion's got nothing 2 do with age!!

And I think u'd better sell ur ticket for Scantraxx 2 someone who does like the "new" Hardstyle, because there will be probably nothing that will satisfy ur musical needs! (I hope i'm wrong 4u but.....). 2bad 4 u mate, but it is like it is. If u can't stand the new Hardstyle heat, stay away from the new flames.......

Perhaps till the 4th of October, will be a great party 4 sure!!

laatste aanpassing 2 september 2008 10:31

It was your 5th Q-base right? What have you been doing the last 4 times, since you haven't heard the music changing??

Uitspraak van AJ op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 10:22:
Zany, and for example A-Lusion, but whats so different then with these guys and their style

I knew I would get all these comemnts but I wrote it anyway

Well these DJ`s ( in my eyes) have their own sound and well keep on playing with the same beat it was played 2-3 years back. But agin its my opionion.

Uitspraak van AJ op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 10:22:
It all sounds often the same nowadays (that's right) and it's got (thank God.. ) nothing more 2 do with the "older" Hardstyle from the start of 2001

Of course it doesn`t but I din`t say that far back my dear friend but I brought up tracks from a year back or 2 years ago. I am focusing more on the last year..

Uitspraak van AJ op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 10:22:
And I think u'd better sell ur ticket for Scantraxx 2 someone who does like the "new" Hardstyle, because there will be probably nothing that will satisfy ur musical needs! (I hope i'm wrong 4u but.....). 2bad 4 u mate, but it is like it is. If u can't stand the new Hardstyle heat, stay away from the new flames.......

The new Hardstyle heat and flames????

Man I am the one that has been following the evolution of this music from day one.. I can handle harder the new flames or whatever you call it.

Scantraxx however I believe will be better

Much much better

Uitspraak van verwijderd op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 11:37:
It was your 5th Q-base right? What have you been doing the last 4 times, since you haven't heard the music changing??

Well I have actually my friend... after Xq Showtek last january I noticed the music changing towards an other beat. And again don`t get me wrong!!! Its not that is hard... its just less bass more melody and more MC`en then before. I don`t want to fucking clap my hands all the time like if I am at a Anouk concert and wave my hands in the air like if I am with Tiesto

I want Bass, I want it raw, and I want it to hear the sounds that I like.

Anyway. We can discuss this all winter long but hey at the end we`ll still disagree

See you all on Scantraxx

Uitspraak van Alex Moulas op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 12:28:
I can handle harder the new flames or whatever you call it.

Scantraxx however I believe will be better Much much better

Pfff....... ur killing me man!! I haven't really got a clue why you even brought (this story of Q Base) up then...

laatste aanpassing 2 september 2008 13:12

Uitspraak van AJ op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 13:11:
Pfff....... ur killing me man!! I haven't really got a clue why you even brought (this story of Q Base) up then

We are not on one level so there is no need to contiinue this

See you @ Scantraxx hopefull. Rechts voor bij de DJ

laatste aanpassing 2 september 2008 15:01

you've been going to dutch parties for over 5 years ... been living there for how long?
So how the hell is it that you don't bother or try to put a dutch report here

Uitspraak van pimpieboy op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 21:22:
you've been going to dutch parties for over 5 years ... been living there for how long?

Belg

Uitspraak van pimpieboy op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 21:22:
So how the hell is it that you don't bother or try to put a dutch report here

Belg

Uitspraak van Alex Moulas op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 15:00:
See you @ Scantraxx hopefull. Rechts voor bij de DJ

I'll put on a shirt with "I love the old days" on it, especially 4 you!! hahahahahah

I agree whit this guy.

You should have try cally and juice in the ammo 9.

They played the good hardstyle music.
And the chick who came after them played also good hardstyle. ( frisky ofzo )

Maar inderdaad de hardstyle van heden ten dagen is ook in mij ogen erg futloos.
Vroeger kreeg ik bakken energie van de lekkere hardstlyle kicks and bass maar nu is het maar zelden dat een plaatje lekker doorzaagt.
De bass tegenwoordig is wel grappig met allerlei verschillende dieptes.
Maar dat is niet echt wat ze vroegah ten gehoren brachten.

Moest da nou ech in t engels

Uitspraak van jeroen@ op dinsdag 2 september 2008 om 22:46:
Maar inderdaad de hardstyle van heden ten dagen is ook in mij ogen erg futloos.

Mee eens!
De belangrijke heren maken de sound, en het gaat een hele nieuwe kant op.
Misschien anders dan voorheen.

Persoonlijk vond ik de sound van een paar jaar geleden ook een stuk beter. Ik denk dat Alex bedoeld dat het vroeger achter elkaar door ging, zonder stop of aankondiging en te veel show. Maar zo gaat het gewoon tegenwoordig, dat is gewoon de evolutie van dit genre.

Het lijkt nu net een voorstelling, veel te veel gelul af en toe en een hoop show.
Maar de mensen die het geweldig vinden gaan er toch wel heen, en dat is ook wel wat waard.
En het verkoopt, dus men gaat er toch wel mee door.

Je kan natuurlijk altijd feesten organiseren met "the old sounds"

Of ga naar een kleine locatie waar het wel lekker door knalt.

Het zou karakter zijn als producers nu zelf een andere richting op gaan en hun eigen sounds maken en houden, i.p.v. met de rest mee te doen. Blijf orgineel!

Peace out.

laatste aanpassing 4 september 2008 21:24