Gezocht: Het Grote ID&T en Hardcore verzamelaars Topic

Ik probeer via deze weg verzamelaars op het gebied van Thunderdome en Verdere hardcore gerelateerde verzamel items onder / tot elkander te brengen.
Vaak zijn er discussies over verzamel objecten in een topic van mensen die wat zoeken of verkopen. Kan me voorstellen dat het soms hinderlijk is, of dat iemand het vervelend vind.
Oa, gaat het vaak over een Vinyl, een Thunderdome cd, Posters en Flyers.
Een cd die wel of niet bestaat. Bijv. Thunderdome 13 the megamix.

Misschien kan ik via deze weg, met eventuele medewerking van PartyFlock een topic creëren waar lekker over deze dingen gesproken kan worden.
Als Bijvoorbeeld:


Ik weet dat er veel verzamelaars zijn op het gebied van Hardcore.
Maar er is nog geen gezamelijke topic. Waar het 1 en ander ongestoord besproken kan worden. En je mening kan uiten.
De 1 vind het kinderachtig. Voor de ander een passie.
De een heeft eindelijk die Laatste of zeldzame flyer gevonden de andere een vinyl die hij/zij al jaren zoekt.
Misschien dat dit niet werkt?
Kan ik altijd zeggen: Niet geschoten is altijd mis.
Ik doe dit dan ook, om eventueel andere topics te ontlasten, En omdat ik heb rondgevraagd en heb begrepen dat er wel animo voor is.
Iedereen is welkom, en zeg ik kom maar op met jullie dingen.

For International collectors:

I creat this topic for collectors to debate about all kind of items Hardcore related you can collect.
Such as: cds, Vinyls, fyers, posters Etc Etc.
And to get collectors insite en outside of holland togetter in one big topic. "Sofar they don't know each other already"
To trade, buy or sell items you have in double.
And because some conversations are continue in topics of persons who like to buy or sell their items on PartyFlock, and dont like the conversations in their topic.
So when you got anything you like to share with another collector,
please enjoy this topic.
And perhaps it wil be a success.

Maybe it dont work out, then the only i can say "i have try to make something like this possible, also when it dont work out".

Übersetzung Deutsche Sprache, senden privat Bericht nach mir.
traduire au milie de français, envoyer je un privé faire-part.
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HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE THUNDERDOME

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op zondag 19 mei 2013 om 21:41:

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I got it from a regular cd store on ebay.cheap.see the story some 200 pages back or so.I have still doubts.Have no idea of how many were pressed.But no one made money out of this unlike fake Russians and others.And its too...ugly and different...to be someone trying to make a fake.And the cds are exactly like normal 2001 cd's.Just different cover.


Laurasia I vaguely remember from 99 or so.right wing music very poorly made.nobody cared much and I think that is just a stratagem to divert attention...to give extra value to the auction.

Never heard of best of promos for Thunderdome.white label vinyl promos yes of course.
I am still very curious on tracklist and cd looks.And of course backside print.
Sorry but this seller is not innocent, even reading her messages you realize that.

Uitspraak van actief op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 04:13:

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Just different cover.

But the letters look so strange, I cant understand why they have done it like that?!

Uitspraak van actief op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 04:13:

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right wing music very poorly

dj Laurasia is a well known uncommercial underground dj in northern Germany who has also been launched in Russia, Hungary, Scandinavia.. therefore I doesnt think its "poorly made right wing music"!

I like it very much, cause its great experimentally Psycore sound! This uncommercial musicians didnt want to get in TV, because they believe that this is blindness and dementia, I also see it that way!
We still have uncommercial underground parties here in the North, but mostly illegal, but these parties are by far the best, with many good underground djs and hooooooooorny atmosphere!! Filming there is actually forbidden!



^^Also Laurasia!^^
I also have a cassette with tracks of dj Laurasia and other good guys from 1995 with great oldschool sound, like this here with Thunderdome pics:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6821428/Laurasia_Happy_Hardcore_Sukks_Cokks

Uitspraak van actief op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 04:13:

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Never heard of best of promos for Thunderdome.

I also didnt see it before, but I've heard of it, but not from Thunderdome XIII, so I dont know, but if its real I fucking want it!

Uitspraak van actief op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 04:13:

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I am still very curious on tracklist and cd looks.And of course backside print.

Me too man! I'm very curious! She wrote there are 8 tracks only!!

Uitspraak van actief op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 04:13:

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Sorry but this seller is not innocent

Really? To me, she was very friendly! And she calls the Joke "evil clown" and the wizard "old man with outstretched arms"! Hahahaha! Man, that lady has no plan!!

By the way: Can anyone tell me where I can find this strange shop??????????



WTF is that?

Belgium.
They got alot of remakes. Fucking sad, ain't it?

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 14:47:

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Belgium.
They got alot of remakes. Fucking sad, ain't it?

yeah it is...
but do you have the adress or a site?
i wanna check it out

Uitspraak van thunderdome_1995 op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 15:54:

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yeah it is...
but do you heve the adress or a site?
i wanna check it out

I thought they already removed everything out of their shop because of bad reviews of their shop etc.
And maybe ID&T wasn't happy with it.

I'm glad it is gone, fuck the fake stuff. Fuck everyone which tries to earn some money with fake stuff.
I don't know the shop name, if I did, I wouldn't tell you. Why? Because it is sad that people try to earn money through things like this and scamming people with fake shirts.

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 14:41:

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WTF is that?

She doesn´t look that happy, I think she just shit in her pants!

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 16:00:

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Why? Because it is sad that people try to earn money through things like this and scamming people with fake shirts.

yeah your right at that one...

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 16:00:

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Because it is sad that people try to earn money through things like this and scamming people with fake shirts.

Totally true! BUT! I just want to check out stuff like that, it interests me!

Uitspraak van thunderdome_1995 op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 16:20:

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yeah your right at that one...

I'm surprised that nobody try to sell crap like that on eBay!

Uitspraak van God is a gabber op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 16:09:

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She doesn´t look that happy, I think she just shit in her pants!

Hahaha! Yeah, this is exactly what her facial expression tells us!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 16:34:

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I'm surprised that nobody try to sell crap like that on eBay!

Ok, here we go again:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Thunderdome-Hardcore-Techno-and-Gabber-Music-T-Shirt-size-S-2XL-/111077673825?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&hash=item19dcbecb61

Uitspraak van thunderdome_1995 op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 15:54:

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the adress or a site?

http://www.dcspecial.com/

I once bought a cd from DJ Laurasia directly, it was one of the Thunderdome Maxis (9, 10, 11 or 12 I think).
She put a cd-r in it with her own tracks and some live sets on it. The box in which she shipped it was
filled with stickers and drawings. Actually when it arrived I thought it was a secret admirer who sent
me a gift ...

Thunderdome XIII Best Of, I'm planning to buy it after I see more photo's, don't care about the price, I can buy it without risk of being scammed.
Allthough I first want to see more pictures.
What disturbs me is that the FOR PROMOTION ONLY is written in the left corner where normally ARCADE - TV-CD (or something like that) is written, further on the 2nd bell of "the evil clown"'s hat is missing, on that same place. The white stripe of the spine is also not positive.
The color scheme is easly done in photoshop. Reading her comments I do not think she is actually trying to scam someone, maybe she has simply been scammed in the past?

Anyhow, it will be an adventures week.

Uitspraak van vanhoeck op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:18:

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http://www.dcspecial.com/

But no Thunderdome stuff!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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I once bought a cd from DJ Laurasia directly

You bought a Cd directly from dj Laurasia? The last I've heard is that he died in prison, I'm not sure if its the truth, but I know he was in prison for some years!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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The box in which she shipped it was
filled with stickers and drawings.

I dont understand.. WHO shipped a box filled with stickers and drawings? dj Laurasia????

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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I can buy it without risk of being scammed.

Thats true, cause the seller has PayPal!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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on the 2nd bell of "the evil clown"'s hat is missing

The white edge comes from the camera flash, I think, because the other Cds also have it,
but you're right man, there is NO BELL! I made a screenshot to make it bigger, here:

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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I do not think she is actually trying to scam someone

Agreed! Ok, I also think this is a fake Cd, but I'm not sure, but I'm sure this seller has absolutly no idea about that.
Maybe she bought it in the 90s on a flea marked or something like that! I also bought fake Cds and Mcs of techno artists
on flea markets in the 90s! I remember that we had a lot of east-European sellers who sold fake-copies of everything!
They sat on the floor with all the fake stuff and when the police arrived, they flitted like bunnies after a gun shot!!
That was quite normal on German flea markets in the 90s!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:27:

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it will be an adventures week.

It will be!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:20:

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The white edge comes from the camera flash

No, never.
The white is too "fake" to be like a flash. It is just a small line, and you can see that the print is wrongly cutted there. The line is not straight.

I say fake one, fake one from germany or what ever.

I always assumed it was Laurasia since it contained a CD-R with only tracks & live sets from Laurasia.
Could be wrong. Before this discussion (and the CD-R) I never heard of Laurasia.
Maybe I still have the box (have to look), I remember it came from Germany

I got a Russian guy working for me and he showed me also a lot of fake stuff (not Thunderdome), but most of his music & movies are just bootlegs. Beautiful bootlegs, certainly the dvd's are sometimes much better then the real thing!

I don't think paypal will cover it, since the seller will ship it and paypal will not decide wheter something is real or not.
Will be hard to proof, except if it is a CD-R, but new pictures can give clarity about that.
Further on if paypal decides in your favor, you will have to reship the items registred. For me that means +/- 30 EUR loss.
But I've got insurances which cover stuff like this, the only thing I lose is that I can only use them twice a year, so I'm pretty selective on which deals I put them!

Tjezus gasten wat een nuteloze discussie hier over die thunderdome 13 single.

Zo nep als wat,td 13 megamix bestaat niet en zal ook nooit bestaan.

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:27:

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The white is too "fake" to be like a flash.

But the *Rave Over Beethoven* and the *Dune* also has these white edges and I have these Cds and there are no white backsites, so it must be only on the photo! OR these Cds are also fakes, but then the seller lied to me, cause she wrote me that all Cds look real, without signs of piraty! Man, I'm just looking for the other pics!

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:27:

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I say fake one

I also think so, but I'm not sure!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:39:

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tracks & live sets from Laurasia

I still dont realise these "stickers and drawings" but if you have tracks & live sets of dj Laurasia it would be great, if you would send them to me, cause its fucking hard to find stuff like that!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:39:

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Laurasia

You know, these oldschool guys used a lot of aliasses! I think cause they always had trouble with the police!
But, you are from Belgium, right? I saw a BELGIAN sampler, "Vlaams Power" or something like that and there were also a track from dj Laurasia on it! I was really surprised about that, but it was with this name!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:39:

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a Russian guy working for me and he showed me also a lot of fake stuff

Yeah, look to my album, this Thunderdome VI double MC is also an east-European fake, but not bad, I love to have it! Also the fake Happy Rave double MC, the single Happy Rave Mcs are real German releases, but very very rare, some of my favorates!
Like I said, on these flea markets the east-Europeans sold 1000's of fakes, a lot of self-made stuff, like this Thunderdome VI Double MC and also alot of 1 : 1 copies, but you always can see it!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:39:

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But I've got insurances which cover stuff like this

Thats amazing!! I also need that!!!!!!!! I was cheated several times! Fuck all these sellers!!!!!!! The most were French!!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 19:23:

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But the *Rave Over Beethoven* and the *Dune* also has these white edges and I have these Cds and there are no white backsites, so it must be only on the photo! OR these Cds are also fakes, but then the seller lied to me, cause she wrote me that all Cds look real, without signs of piraty! Man, I'm just looking for the other pics!

The copy I have here of the game called "Roller Coaster" have some white borders 2, because I cutted it wrong at the age of 10. That one is fake, because I coppied it. So, I also say that the TD CD is fake.

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 18:20:

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Uitspraak van vanhoeck op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 17:18:http://www.dcspecial.com/
But no Thunderdome stuff!

https://www.facebook.com/christiaens.dimitri

dit is de eigenaar van de winkel kan je het hem eens vragen

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 19:23:

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still dont realise these "stickers and drawings" but if you have tracks & live sets of dj Laurasia it would be great, if you would send them to me, cause its fucking hard to find stuff like that!

If I still have the box I'll take a picture, but if I still have it it should be in my old room at my parent's house. So will take a bit before I get there.
The same for the CD-R, it should be there somewhere ... I'll upload the tracks when I pass there. Who knows what else I'll find ... last time I was there I found my old white ID&T shirt which I ordered when Thunderdome VII came out. It has holes and is worn out, but now it has been framed and is hanging against my wall.

Uitspraak van vanhoeck op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 19:48:

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dit is de eigenaar van de winkel kan je het hem eens vragen

die kleding zijn al lang uit de trekken gehaald

Uitspraak van **Noiseraiser ** op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 21:10:

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die kleding zijn al lang uit de trekken gehaald

Waarom precies?
Op last van ID&T of een andere reden?

Uitspraak van VuistNederland op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 21:13:

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Op last van ID&T of een andere reden?

dacht last van id&t 100% weet ik het niet zeker meer

TE KOOP OF RUIL maat xxl valt als xl
nieuw in de verpakking

Gezocht: magazines als Ape, Strobe, Update, Out Soon, ID&T, Slam!, Release, DJBroadcast, PowerBeat etc...

Hiervoor te ruil: flyers --> https://partyflock.nl/album/1283770/7609993:FLYER_DOMEIN

Uitspraak van vanhoeck op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 19:48:

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dit is de eigenaar van de winkel kan je het hem eens vragen

Shit on it..

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 20:09:

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I'll upload the tracks when I pass there

That would be great man! Maybe there are also tracks of other good guys I like, GDI-guys, or Rod Bolts, Corhead, Trackthor is also a good one.. You know a very young DUTCH dj called dj Redrum? Ok he makes HAPPY Hardcore mixes, but I like the flow, cause its so fucking 90s! Or "Mafakka", I think hes Danish, but I was on U-Party with his music and it blows me away, Speedcore deluxe, its also more North underground, so you will not know, but you guys didnt even knew fucking Blümchen and she sold the most Happy Hardcore records worldwide! Hahahaha!! Here, speacially for you girls:



But the B-side was not bad

Uitspraak van D-T-R op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 20:09:

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Who knows what else I'll find

Yeah man, I know that feeling very well!! Some time ago I was in the attic of my parents house, and there I found a box full of BRAND NEW Cds and Mcs!!! Thunderdomes, Terrordromes, Tunnel Records, Techno Trax, PCP etc. !!! -- A lot of them are still SEALED!! -- I just SCREAMED something like **WHAT DA FUCK?!?!?!?!?** My father thought I was bitten by a rat, or somethin like that! And nobody knows who has deposited it there, my brother said NO, and I also cant remember, but ok, maybe I've done it at the end of the 90s, when I was on drugs, it could be..

I also found other crazy items like Wehrmacht-stuff of my grandfather and so on!
And you know, only a quarter of the attic is explored, so if I find time again, then the search continues, Indiana Jones-Style!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 10:53:

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Hiervoor te ruil: flyers --> https://partyflock.nl/album/1283770/7609993:FLYER_DOMEIN

Nice stuff man! I never started to collect flyers by myself, cause I know a few guys who does it and their homes look like Messi apartments!
Here is a guy who sells a "garbage bag" full of Hardcore flyers & posters for only 25 € VB (VB = basis for negotiation), have a look:

http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s-anzeige/gabber,-hardcore-flayer/116810977-234-1956

You can write him without "log in"! Just click to "Nachricht schreiben"!

I collect only special posters and I'm still looking for these both, in perfect state please ,
the second one is a big Thunderdome '96 bus flyer, does anyone here have this?

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 12:31:

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Rod Bolts, Corhead, Trackthor is also a good one.. You know a very young DUTCH dj called dj Redrum? Ok he

Redrum got some fine mixes indeed, the name rob bolts rings a Bell. I heard his name à few times On a Pcp live set feat the TMC

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 12:31:

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Shit on it..

Oh but I knew Blümchen back then, I have one CDM (Herz An Herz) of her. I also have a few from Das Modul, Dune, ...
Back in those days (mid-90's) I bought a lot of commercial (mostly crap) cd's from different countries (mostly Germany, France and Spain), sometimes they contained real gems on it. And while everybody here knew the popular songs I could always play something alike but yet completly different. I loved Euro House as well and the crossover to happy hardcore was superb.
Germany had a lot of happy stuff that I liked while the Spanish cd's introduced me to makina.

Uitspraak van D-T-R op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 17:54:

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makina

Aint that the realy fast happy hardcore with those chipmunk vocals?

Makina:

UDC bijna failliet ?

http://www.djbroadcast.nl/news/newsitem_id=7290/Rechter_hekelt_handelswijze_vrijwel_failliet_UDC__denigrerend_en_schofferend.html

Ik mag het niet hopen l, heb nl kaartjes voor dance valley en Ground Zero

Uitspraak van P-T-W op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 21:02:

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UDC bijna failliet ?

Uitspraak van JVDL op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 21:07:

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mag het niet hopen l, heb nl kaartjes voor dance valley en Ground Zero

hebben die indertijd ook niet mee nightmare outdoor en indoor mee gorganiseerd

Kan ID&Q weer een extra stukje toevoegen

Uitspraak van JVDL op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 18:55:

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Aint that the realy fast happy hardcore with those chipmunk vocals?

It's more like UK happy hardcore, uplifting hard trance.
They play tracks from groups like Milk Inc. at +8 and put an instrumental newstyle or hardcore track under it.

Beste mensen ik zoek de volgende flyers nog:

Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil (25-05-2013)
Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil (20-11-2010)
Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil: Hoorn (07-05-2011)
Hardcore4Life (02-2013)
Fucking Bastards - Two Year Anniversary (25-08-2012)
Tektron (23-04-2011)
Mindcontroller (25-9-2010)
Underground Distortion (12-12-2009)
Underground Distortion (17-10-2009)
Underground Distortion: early (13-12-2008)
Energy Of The Core (12-03-2010)
Energy Of The Core (19-06_2009)
Energy Of the Core (27-02-2009)
7 Gates To Hell (03-02-2007)

Heb je een aantal van deze flyers dan heb ik eventueel ook nog wel flyers of stickers om te ruilen. O.a. van Mokum feesten en wat buitenlandse dingen. Stuur me een PM als je me kan helpen om mijn persoonlijke collectie aan te vullen.

Uitspraak van vanhoeck op maandag 20 mei 2013 om 19:48:

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dit is de eigenaar

Uitspraak van vanhoeck op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 16:55:

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Shit on it..

I dont mean it bad!
Its only a strange guy with fake Thunderdome stuff, I just wanted to see some items but I dont wanna be his Facebook-homi!

Uitspraak van D-T-R op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 17:54:

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Germany had a lot of happy stuff that I liked while the Spanish cd's introduced me to makina.

Uitspraak van JVDL op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 18:55:

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Aint that the realy fast happy hardcore with those chipmunk vocals?

Uitspraak van D-T-R op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 07:41:

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t's more like UK happy hardcore, uplifting hard trance.

^^Exactly^^! Its not mine, its toooooo chipmunk for me! I like the pitched vocals in 90s style, but makina is somethin to.. how can I say it.. somethin toooo... PUSSY for me! Sorry.. But Eeeeeeveryone has their own taste!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 19:48:

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Makina:

This one is more Early Hardtrance, isn it?!

Uitspraak van JVDL op dinsdag 21 mei 2013 om 13:18:

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Redrum got some fine mixes indeed, the name rob bolts rings a Bell. I heard his name à few times On a Pcp live set

Yes Rod Bolts did some great live sets, also together with Marc Acardipane and other PCP guys and dj Laurasia also did great live sets with Acardipane and some other guys there, mostly they used aliases, but some of them ONLY did live sets, or LIVE PRODUCTIONS, nothing else! And thats why its so hard to find that stuff! And if some of them had Cds or Mcs then you only could buy it on the underground parties, mostly limited to only 100 copies, or less! Thats why some collectors pay so much money for items like dj Laurasia Cds or GDI live sets and so on! Acardipane was also underground in the 80s, but then he made a big jump to make Hardcore commercial! Marc Acardipane and the Slamburt produced a lot of underground *Hart Haus* records and sent them into the world, to Holland, to France and so on.. to make it big! And thats why they are considered as the inventors of Hardcore music! Here is a good video with them, you can turn on English subtitles!

*PCP: Thorsten Lambart (Don Demon, Kotzaak Klan) and Marc Trauner (Marc Acardipane), the inventors of hardcore-techno-music (from Hamburg and Frankfurt) give an interview in German TV, 19th January 1990.*

Best sentence ever of Marc Acardipane, in this video: *I dont think that the guitars will come back!*

I know that video already.worth seeing.
But PCP was underground... truly underground.But with extreme quality and unique sounds. Very different from what you showed of Laurasia.

I have that Thunderdome 93 poster...2 versions of it.
As for the bus I think that's a small flyer.I have it double.Where did you see it As poster?

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:20:

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This one is more Early Hardtrance, isn it?!

Nope, definitely not. This track is from 2002 and it's a pure Makina-classic.

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:31:

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But PCP was underground..

Yes, first in the 80s they were truly underground, then they got bigger and much more commercial, and mostly they used other names then! And man, you cant compare one style with the other style, its completely different! And taste is tase!

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:31:

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I have that Thunderdome 93 poster...2 versions of it.

In perfect state? Do you wanna trade?

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:31:

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Where did you see it As poster?

It was a bigger one that should have hung framed in ticket-presale shops, or maybe even in bus shelters..!? I've seen it in another collection and I want it!!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:46:

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This track is from 2002 and it's a pure Makina-classic.

I always heard only this *chipmunks-* and *too much melody*-makina style and its not mine!
But this one is ok!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:49:

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I always heard only this *chipmunks-* and *too much melody*-makina style and its not mine!

Yes, most of it is like that, but there are some nice tracks. Separate the men from the boys.

Uitspraak van actief op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 10:03:

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Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil (25-05-2013)
Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil (20-11-2010)
Ouwe Stijl Is Botergeil: Hoorn (07-05-2011)

Fabian ff een berichtje sturen?
Of één van die andere gasten van SOU. Wellicht hebben die nog wat.

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 11:20:

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*PCP: Thorsten Lambart (Don Demon, Kotzaak Klan) and Marc Trauner (Marc Acardipane), the inventors of hardcore-techno-music (from Hamburg and Frankfurt) give an interview in German TV, 19th January 1990.*

This interview is probably from 1991 or 1992. It contains the song Friends Of Alex – What Is..? Fick Dich which was released in 1992 and contains samples from Phenomania - Who Is Elvis? and T99 - Anasthasia. Those records were both released in 1991.

Uitspraak van Das Ges op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 13:22:

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This interview is probably from 1991

I dont know, I have just copied the text below the video, but the tracks could be older than their release dates?!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 12:23:

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nice track

The track is called EDELWEISS! This reminds me of these funny guys here with their *Raumschiff Edelweiss*:



I loved it in 1992!!!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 12:23:

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Separate the men from the boys

I always do man!

Ok, but I never would say this *commercial underground*-sound is makina, but you know, normally I dont grab the styles in drawers anymore, I think all the guys and pre-guys in these days should just enjoy the sound and they shouldnt argue about what they are, Gabbers, Hardstylers, makina-pussies, whatever! No, you know what I mean man, just enjoy the sound! We can enjoy completely different styles and thats great! -- Only Goa's are gay motherfuckers!

Amen!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 13:36:

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We can enjoy completely different styles and thats great!

Yes, I enjoy all different types of electronic dance music, for me, it's all house-music!

Listen to this message!

Uitspraak van Epistaxis op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 13:45:

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it's all house-music!

And other guys call it all just TECHNO! Fuck it! But the message is right!

*Maximum respect to the whole European posse! ...
Ravers of the Universe... keep the spirit alive!
KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE!!! Come on! Come on!
Hardcore!!!* -- Hans Peter Baxxter -- Hahahaha!

Yeah, just keep it alive!

Uitspraak van NORDCORE GmbH op woensdag 22 mei 2013 om 13:36:

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but the tracks could be older than their release dates?!

No, somebody definitely made a mistake with the description of the video. No doubt about that. But it could be that Marc is a time traveller.