MDMA usage frequency & long term effects

Hi everyone,

I was wondering how bad is it for body/brain if you use 5 times/year MDMA crystal, taken irregularly. Also, does this drug bring anything beneficial, on a long term basis, to your brain?

Thanks, cheers.

never heard of google?

Don't think this site is frequented by scientific researchers

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:22:

I was wondering how bad is it for body/brain if you use 5 times/year MDMA crystal, taken irregularly.

Eventually you will die

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:22:

Also, does this drug bring anything beneficial, on a long term basis, to your brain?

prolly not

Depends on how much you take. If you stick to 1-2mg / kg body weight each of these 5 times there will very probably be very little to no negative effects.
The positive effects are mainly that it can work therapeutic, and positively change your perception of the world and philosophy about life, but I don't think there are benificial effects to the brain that can be measured on a neurological level.

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:22:

Also, does this drug bring anything beneficial, on a long term basis, to your brain?

every round is different..you know yourself

Uitspraak van Karian op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:29:

Don't think this site is frequented by scientific researchers

Hey! I am a scientific researcher (not about drugs though, but I read articles in this field out of interest )

Uitspraak van Karian op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:29:

Don't think this site is frequented by scientific researchers

You never know

Uitspraak van Leon º²º op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:54:

You never know

we probably all know this site is visited frequently by total idiots (some of them scientific researchers).
But to stay on-topic, the only bad effects that you can have are of the effects on your body (dehydration which can lead to braindamage) and people questioning your sexual preference due to excessive hugging and hippie-behaviour.

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:22:

I was wondering how bad is it for body/brain if you use 5 times/year MDMA crystal, taken irregularly. Also, does this drug bring anything beneficial, on a long term basis, to your brain?

Een tijdje geleden werd ik geattendeerd op de volgende link
http://www.drugsinformatie.nl/
ik hoop dat je hier je antwoord kan vinden, succes iig.

Uitspraak van Black Messiah op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 16:01:

we probably all know this site is visited frequently by total idiots (some of them scientific researchers).

idiots can be really smart

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:34:

Hey! I am a scientific researcher (not about drugs though, but I read articles in this field out of interest )

But when I make knifes (a weapon) doesn't mean that I could make guns. Hell Yeah

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:33:

but I don't think there are benificial effects to the brain that can be measured on a neurological level.

indeed, there are none.

I'm science related too,

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:34:

but I read articles in this field out of interest )

doing the same thing

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:34:

Hey! I am a scientific researcher (not about drugs though, but I read articles in this field out of interes

that does not make you a scientific researcher

indeed and for an alledged scientific researcher your English is pretty bad

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 16:41:

indeed and for an alledged scientific researcher your English is pretty bad

thats because in Holland we learn Dutch at school as a primary language. My (academic) Englisch sucks too. Its a bit hard to learn because we dont get teached in it. innit?

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:33:

The positive effects are mainly that it can work therapeutic, and positively change your perception of the world and philosophy about life, but I don't think there are benificial effects to the brain that can be measured on a neurological level.

That's what I thought also. I actually feel a bit of a change in my perception regarding myself and everything else around me (in a good way). I was not sure what exactly causes this. Though I need to make a 'google research'! )

Overall, I see the discussion goes more towards the presence of 'scientific researchers' on this forum, rather than what was the topic about ) You guys are funny!

Cheers,

keep it real

Uitspraak van Rob. op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 17:50:

keep it real

That's not the problem. The thing is that I was the 'good boy' before, never did MDMA. Suddenly, since I use it, I suffer these psychological changes in a very short period of time. I feel better about myself, I am more confident, I have better understanding for people in general. So, is not a question of not being real. It is a question if MDMA causes these changes. And by the way, the dosage is for a 'beginner'. I know after every use you basically need to take more and more so you can have the desired effect or the effect you had the first time you took.

Uitspraak van permanent verbannen op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 16:36:

that does not make you a scientific researcher

I'm a PhD student and I am doing reseach as a job
And my English tends to get worse if I don't sleep, and since it's ADE I didn't get much sleep since tuesday
And topics tend to go offtopic on this forum

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 18:18:

I'm a PhD student and I am doing reseach as a job

But it don't make you a (attention please!)

Uitspraak van permanent verbannen op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 16:36:

scientific researcher

!

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 18:18:

I'm a PhD student and I am doing reseach as a job

In grade school i talked about dinosaurs for 15 mins
I spent a whole day in the library to research about dino's

that doesnt make me patholagist (wrong spelling .. only slept for an hour last night)

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:34:

Hey! I am a scientific researcher (not about drugs though, but I read articles in this field out of interest )

let me use a other topic to say exactly what you're saying
He i can swim (but not in water, but i take baths because i like it)

Uitspraak van verwijderd op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 15:22:

Also, does this drug bring anything beneficial, on a long term basis, to your brain?

The destruction of serotonergic nerve terminals

Uitspraak van permanent verbannen op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 20:15:

let me use a other topic to say exactly what you're saying
He i can swim (but not in water, but i take baths because i like it)

Nah not really, I am a scientific researcher, but just not professionally on this topic. So I do swim, but I earn my money with another specific type of swimming such as waterpolo or something. Hmm, analogy still doesn't seem completely right but who cares

Uitspraak van Matthijs op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 21:51:

Nah not really, I am a scientific researcher, but just not professionally on this topic. So I do swim, but I earn my money with another specific type of swimming such as waterpolo or something. Hmm, analogy still doesn't seem completely right but who cares

But what's your opinion about possible brain damage as a researcher (after you've screened pubmed)?

Well when even large groups of scientist on Pubmed can not come to one definite conclusion it is hard to say anything (well atleast, something conclusive) about it, but ofcourse, you can have an opinion about it I say; it does inflict a degree of brain damage, the degree of damage and weither this is noticeable by an individual depends on a whole lot more factors than only dosage and frequency of use.

Uitspraak van !¤ Bad Sound Kills Good Music ¤! op vrijdag 23 oktober 2009 om 22:47:

Well when even large groups of scientist on Pubmed can not come to one definite conclusion it is hard to say anything (well atleast, something conclusive) about it, but ofcourse, you can have an opinion about it I say; it does inflict a degree of brain damage, the degree of damage and weither this is noticeable by an individual depends on a whole lot more factors than only dosage and frequency of use.

I agree. One important factor is body heat by the way. If you take time to cool down during MDMA use you will have less brain damage of the same amount

That's correct. Recently a new article stated that a small amount of alcohol during the experience also prevents a part of the damage; due to the fact that it prevents hyperthermia in a small degree.

Edit; Damage instead of Damege 'course.

So basically that means that the temperature of your body affects the level of brain damage?
That kinda sux, considering the best place to roll is at a rave.
You can always cool yourself with a few drinks, but I dont think only a few drinks are enough to minimize the damage.

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zaterdag 24 oktober 2009 om 07:49:

So basically that means that the temperature of your body affects the level of brain damage? That kinda sux, considering the best place to roll is at a rave. You can always cool yourself with a few drinks, but I dont think only a few drinks are enough to minimize the damage.

No, to prevent brain damage it is better to relax at the chill-out once in a while, which can also be nice. Talking to strangers about how great everything is and cuddling