I need to know something

ok i need to know who the first person was that wrote gabber ??

i was told he was german but i was under the impresion the dutch were first to make gabber and i thought it would be dj paul who made gabber or something ?

please help

my feet

okay okay okay

dj bas van toor

hahahahaha BASSIE

come on guys seriously someone told me that it was a german called Marc Acardipane

is this true
because i thought it was...dutch hardcore

i think it is dj rob

Gabber was first made in Berlin/Eastern Germany. Somehow it made it's way to Holland.

Gabba Front Berlin and Gabba Nation are a few of the first groups who started creating gabber. They even had a ride on the loveparade but were kicked out in, I think it was, 1996 because it scared of people. Then they started the Fuckparade as a protest to the Loveparade wich treated them like a black sheep.

You should try the sites of GFB, Gabba Nation or the fuckparade to find more info!

paul elstak is the one and only godfather of hardcore

see i thought it was paul or rob...

are you sure its from germany
thats dosent explaine why its called DUTCH HARDCORE???

i think dj rob& mc joe were the first...

The term traces its roots back to the Hebrew word for 'mate' or 'friend'. Apocryphally, one of these gabbers wanted to enter the Roxy in Amsterdam, where the bouncer said, "No, gabber, you can't come in here." Source of the Dutch term for the genre, "gabberhouse", was DJ "Hardy" Ardy Beesemer.

gabbers first made?! who cares....

no matter who was the first hardcore dj...it is more important for me, that the music is played fucking good!

Uitspraak van roflcopter op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 13:03:

The term traces its roots back to the Hebrew word for 'mate' or 'friend'. Apocryphally, one of these gabbers wanted to enter the Roxy in Amsterdam, where the bouncer said, "No, gabber, you can't come in here." Source of the Dutch term for the genre, "gabberhouse", was DJ "Hardy" Ardy Beesemer.

yeah hun i already know this but i need to know the first gabber producer because this person is saying he owns the gabber scene and knows all about it and he is nothing i just wanted to proove him wrong and i thought dutch pple would know because it is dutch music

Uitspraak van Lady Nefarious op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 12:43:

are you sure its from germany

Gabber is from Germany, I'm 100 % sure!

Uitspraak van Lady Nefarious op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 12:43:

thats dosent explaine why its called DUTCH HARDCORE???

Gabber isn't always Dutch hardcore.

Uitspraak van skoebenakkie op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 13:03:

i think dj rob& mc joe were the first...

I thought DJ Rob took it over from Paul Elstak and probably Rob Fabrie (Waxweazle/Headbanger), but I could be wrong!

I just found this:



Here it says that the first HARDCORE record in Holland "beat is flown" is, produced by DJ Rob. It also says the term HARDCORE is a better description then GABBER. So I think you can conclude that Gabber is really something different compared to Hardcore.

yes it is but over here we call uk hardcore happy and dutch hardcore gabber

i saw a site that said there was a big dispute about gabber the germans say they created it and the dutch say they did oh well its gonna be a hard one to find out i guess but ill stick with the german for now since you are the only one with a valid point but can you name the person?

Some people say gabber originated in Germany (Frankfurt) becuase of the track produced by Marc Acardipane called We Have Arrived which was released in 1991 but apparently written in 1989!

There was a scene in Parkzicht in Rotterdam from 1991 onwards when Paul Elstak and Rob Fabrie were releassing records on Hithouse as The Holy Noise, these are early gabberhouse tracks.

For me, gabber is Dutch and was born in Rotterdam but this debate will go on forever.

So, the answer to the question is:

Marc Acardipane or Paul Elstak/Rob Fabrie

although there are lots of other hardcore/gabber tracks that were released in around 1991 made by less well known producers also

I'm sorry butt I don't know any names of persons, back then it was "higly" underground and performances where given in groupes.

Uitspraak van nekro op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 16:25:

Some people say gabber originated in Germany (Frankfurt) becuase of the track produced by Marc Acardipane called We Have Arrived which was released in 1991 but apparently written in 1989!

There was a scene in Parkzicht in Rotterdam from 1991 onwards when Paul Elstak and Rob Fabrie were releassing records on Hithouse as The Holy Noise, these are early gabberhouse tracks.

For me, gabber is Dutch and was born in Rotterdam but this debate will go on forever.

sucsess thank you very much thats the name of the german guy and that makes perfect sence thanks heaps

Uitspraak van Lady Nefarious op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 12:15:

gabber

wazi?

gabber as in dutch hardcore

thats what we call it here

the start of house actually was in america, and it was in a kind of warehouse thing in detroit i believe, but from then on, it is really hard to say what is gabber, since there has been mellow and hardcore and house and gabber, and no one exactly knows anymore which dj's belonged to what sub groups i mean look at the kinds of music in the profiles here of the dj's, it usually states at least 3 kinds of styles

but the first one, I don't think anyone knows his name having an argument with your boyfriend or?

Uitspraak van Zaik op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 12:38:

Gabber was first made in Berlin/Eastern Germany. Somehow it made it's way to Holland.

Gabba Front Berlin and Gabba Nation are a few of the first groups who started creating gabber. They even had a ride on the loveparade but were kicked out in, I think it was, 1996 because it scared of people. Then they started the Fuckparade as a protest to the Loveparade wich treated them like a black sheep.

You should try the sites of GFB, Gabba Nation or the fuckparade to find more info!

this is complete Bullshit... Deathchant started before 96

i know GFB and they didnt invent gabber...

Uitspraak van nekro op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 16:25:

Some people say gabber originated in Germany (Frankfurt) becuase of the track produced by Marc Acardipane called We Have Arrived which was released in 1991 but apparently written in 1989!

There was a scene in Parkzicht in Rotterdam from 1991 onwards when Paul Elstak and Rob Fabrie were releassing records on Hithouse as The Holy Noise, these are early gabberhouse tracks.

For me, gabber is Dutch and was born in Rotterdam but this debate will go on forever.

thats the 1

As far as I'm aware Gabba Front Berlin and Gabba Nation came on the scene long after it started in Frankfurt in Germany, although I believe Sacha from GN played at the first Mayday rave in Berlin in 1991 >respect<

Gabberhouse came about from DJs pitching up hardcore and detroit techno tracks originally, then producing their own harder style with the distinctive distorted 909 bass drum

It's worth mentioning that although Marc Acardipane produced We Have Arrived it was released on Industrial Strength records 1 (as well as PCP 006) by Lenny Dee, who was also experimenting with harder house/techno sounds in around 1991 - see Bugspray on ETC records - so I'd say the following labels were responsible for the birth of hardcore techno/gabber:

PCP / Industrial Strength / Rotterdam Records / Hithouse

Uitspraak van Infared op donderdag 4 mei 2006 om 15:54:

this is complete Bullshit... Deathchant started before 96

I didn't say it didn't started before 1996.

Uitspraak van Infared op donderdag 4 mei 2006 om 15:54:

i know GFB and they didnt invent gabber...

You should read more carefull before you say something.

Humanoid - Stacker

Uitspraak van nekro op donderdag 4 mei 2006 om 16:31:

It's worth mentioning that although Marc Acardipane produced We Have Arrived it was released on Industrial Strength records 1

i have ISR 001 mascalinum united - we have arrived... made in frankfurt copyright pcp 1991 produced by lenny dee and jenifer williams..

straight off the vinyl

any idea if its worth selling nekro?
i sold my decks along time ago when i started playing live acts only still have about 50 classic records left thinkin of offloading em now

ISR 001 isn't actually that rare and you would be lucky to get more than £10 for it. The white vinyl release on PCP 006 is more sought after because it has Reflections of 2017 on the b-side. If I was you I'd keep it as it's a piece of history.

You can find the track We Have Arrived on ISR 001, PCP 006, Frankfurt Trax II, R&S 9202, ACA 2017.001/12 and hundreds of CD compilations and it has been remixed loads of times.

nice 1.. just wondered like. guess ill stick it on my wall or somthin

I wrote the first gabba track, it was called Im gonna break my foot of in your disco loving ass lol

Uitspraak van verwijderd op woensdag 3 mei 2006 om 19:02:

the start of house actually was in america, and it was in a kind of warehouse thing in detroit i believe, but from then on, it is really hard to say what is gabber, since there has been mellow and hardcore and house and gabber, and no one exactly knows anymore which dj's belonged to what sub groups i mean look at the kinds of music in the profiles here of the dj's, it usually states at least 3 kinds of styles

but the first one, I don't think anyone knows his name having an argument with your boyfriend or?

nah not with my boyfriend lol some moron hehe

yeah i know sorta where house music and techno started but i was wondering where the distorted kick drum and dark sounds came from and i guess this discution is gonna go nowhere really cuz everyone has differant veiws and belifs so i will just do some research and try find it lol

ik believe that there is still some controversy
weather it started in amsterdam or rotterdam . .

the darkraver invented the phrase :

hakkuh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that i know for sure

I think it’s not disputed that hardcore parties were happening in parkzicht before anywhere else in holland

in my opinion, it is unimportant, where the beginnig is...
the real hardcore-stuff is from rotterdam....