a bit overdone..

i find the choice to make an englisch part on pf a bit overdone..
i don't think that it will ad something to this forum other than seperation of people..
don't think we want to go that far..
they allmost MUST open a turkish, maroc and surinam PART on PF, because there are 5 million by now..
am i right or wrong??

But doesn't this happen with everything that's succesful or is getting a broader base? Why should Partyflock be exclusively Dutch?

We've been (internally) discussing the pros and cons of an English subsection for over a year now... you can be sure that we've checked all possibilities & options (yes, really)

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:42:

Absolutely not!

lekker onderbouwd antwoord (sorry, can't find the translation for "onderbouwd" )

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:44:

Why should Partyflock be exclusively Dutch?

because it is a dutch partysite
for dutch, by dutch about dutch party's maybe???

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:38:

still do not understand why it has to be a seperated english part..
the reason "foreign DJ's visit our site" is bullshit offcourse..

Why is this bullshit if you erase the 'DJ' and replace it with 'members'?

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:38:

the only thing that is going to happen, is that al the dutch bullshit topic, are going to be placed in the english part of PF too

That tells us more about your views on what Partyflock is or should be then our intentions, the intentions of our foreign visitors and the moderators' abilities .

Uitspraak van Perfect Blood op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:39:

We always adapt to other languages.
Let them adapt to us for once!!

Sweety, my best friend from Australia is learning DUtch right now, have you any fucking clue how hard this is?

And: be proud of the reason why us Dutch are so fluent in English! The rest of the world is!

can't find any dutch section on english fora

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:42:

Why would somebody who is interested in the Dutch party scene or coming over for a holiday be required to learn Dutch? It's not like they're going to live here or something...

Why are we learning english then??

Why would somebody who is interested in the english party scene or coming over for a holiday be required to learn english? It's not like they're going to live here or something...

no, it's a party site (slight difference)

and if you'd care to check the agenda section, you'll see there are a lot of international parties there too! (with Partyflock members visiting even!)

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:47:

Sweety, my best friend from Australia is learning Dutch right now, have you any fucking clue how hard this is?

Hope he will succeed with it. And yes i know that foreign people have lots of problems to learn dutch.

Had a bulgarian girlfriend who tried it also.

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:47:

Why is this bullshit if you erase the 'DJ' and replace it with 'members'?

what have english members to do on a dutch forum?
all great party's are also on english fora for sure

so?

they don't have that much dutch visitors then i guess

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:50:

no, it's a party site (slight difference)

it's an idea from a admin, and all come rushing in over here to defend the desision to make an english section

Actually, they're not. Don't forget that Partyflock is the LARGEST party site WORLDWIDE.

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:47:

can't find any dutch section on english fora

There are some sites where this is possible...and then again: why the hell should we stick to what other sites do or don't? We're unique and we offer unique possibilities.

Uitspraak van Perfect Blood op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:49:

Why would somebody who is interested in the english party scene or coming over for a holiday be required to learn english? It's not like they're going to live here or something..

You're forgetting here that ENglish is an international language that is spoken by more people then just those living in countries that have English as their first language.

If I want to go to a party in Austria and i find a website about that party I should be able to either speak Germen (which I can but let's pretend I can't) or speak English or not visit the forum and go to that party and get by with my hands and feet....

But it makes it so much cooler to have that opportunity to speak with likeminded people

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:52:

can't find any dutch section on english fora

so?

what an answer

...which we've discussed internally for over a year...



I thought it was very "short and to the point"


So the real question is "Should members decide if Partyflock can or can not be allowed to offer international services?" (and if I put it that way, there's really only one answer, isn't there? )

hear hear! *applauds*

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:53:

it's an idea from a admin, and all come rushing in over here to defend the desision to make an english section

I have more then enough trust in that certain admin that he can handle you kids

ANd it's not his idea...we've been talking about this for a year and now we have a consensus that we should offer this possibility: soit!

I get your point Qarian, and i didn't said it is/was a bad idea to make an english section.

The main thing that bothers me is that other people should adapt to us for once. But with our language it's a mission impossible for them.

So we should be glad that we all learn 2 languages at junior high school (don't remember the right word for "basisschool" at the moment).

We're not adapting, we're branching out

And it was easier than starting up a partyflock.co.uk and a partyflock.us anyway

with partyflock we are

But if we are on vacation we always try to speak the national language as soon as we can. Instead of using the international language "english"

you are completely right!!

Uitspraak van Perfect Blood op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:59:

The only thing that bothers me is that other people should adapt to us for once.

ah but that's a completely different dicussion

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 18:54:

"Should members decide if Partyflock can or can not be allowed to offer international services?"

why don't you make it: should members be alowed to disguess such topic?
i think you think NO..
they also made the greatest partysite possible

Now, imgaine you're interested in buying a painting from a Russian painter. How would you feel if the store owner would insist that you'll learn Russian before you will be allowed to buy the painting?

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:04:

but that's a completely different dicussion

Now it is

Learn russian...."njet" or no

We've never allowed Turkish or Arabic in here, only Dutch and English. Has been like that for ages, nobody complained about it. Besides (like has been stated before) those Turkish and Moroccan people it would been intended for speak Dutch already, so why should they have a seperate language section?

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:04:

why don't you make it: should members be alowed to disguess such topic?
i think you think NO..
they also made the greatest partysite possible

Oh purlease....members of this site only always have rights!

If you don't like it tough you can't always get what YOU want

what about the french??

i'm havin dinner
ehmm.. greek

So why should people interested in Dutch parties be required to learn Dutch then?

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:09:

Oh purlease....members of this site only always have rights!

If you don't like it tough you can't always get what YOU want

yesssss.. we all know that one..
that's a " kapstokregeltje"
if you are " uitgeluld" than put that fraise down
i'm not asking for a RIGHT to deside IF, but some healthy discussion can never be bad
for now, you are behaving as a child with a lolly

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:10:

So why should people interested in Dutch parties be required to learn Dutch

Because they not buying a painting

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:07:

We've never allowed Turkish or Arabic in here, only Dutch and English. Has been like that for ages, nobody complained about it. Besides (like has been stated before) those Turkish and Moroccan people it would been intended for speak Dutch already, so why should they have a seperate language section?

Juustem!!! Because there are here more turkisch and maroc peoples than englisch and americans.. Do you really think that all those persons, really live in that kind of lands??

Do you really believe we didn't check this first?



No, but they still may buy the T-shirt

then it's up to them to learn this sentence:


*are dutch example's allowed?*



maybe we could start a thread "Useful sentences on Dutch Parties" - DSW

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:12:

yesssss.. we all know that one..
that's a " kapstokregeltje"
if you are " uitgeluld" than put that fraise down
i'm not asking for a RIGHT to deside IF, but some healthy discussion can never be bad
for now, you are behaving as a child with a lolly

Please compare this site with other sites and be fucking glad that you get the chance to host your opinion like this....even if it's in the worst English I've read for a while

If your opinion was actually based on better arguments then mine you'd be right but you have not mentioned any valid arguments so far

Anybody ever told you you're beautiful when you're angry?

someone once did yes

ah well, I let my passion and my heart speak too often

It's not a bad thing to be passionate about the things you believe in, really!

pfew

Just wait until I show you what I've got planned for later this week... one of *my* true passions

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:24:

glad that you get the chance to host your opinion like this....even if it's in the worst English I've read for a while

and that it is!!

and who the F*CK made you my english teacher??
don't behave as if we have to thank YOU personaly for this wonder called partyflock *PUKE*!!

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:24:

based on better arguments

you actually had arguments??

Uitspraak van Karian op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 19:09:

Oh purlease....members of this site only always have rights!

difficult huh.. english?

Since you yourself chose *this* subsection to start this discussion instead of the (Dutch) "Site" subsection (where I think it would've been more appropriate, since over there it wouldn't have made our non-Dutch members feel slightly unwelcome)... errr... that must've been *me*, I guess.

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 20:13:

don't behave as if we have to thank YOU personaly for this wonder called partyflock *PUKE*!!

Excuse me? who says you don't actually have to thank me personally? But don't worry IO don't need thanks, keep it in the family though

Uitspraak van mickey'D op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 20:18:

you actually had arguments??

Ah well, I can't blame your English teacher for not teaching you English AND not teaching you reading skills

now both of you... back to your corners!

I have these two very large, very threatening-looking buckets of ice cold water at hand and look... your names are on them!

then close the f*cking topic cos it's going nowhere and there is not even need to discuss this...in the Dutch section we tell people to contact the admins via the contact section. So why allow this BS here?

yes? so?
as if i was send out of britain when i can't write english for 100%

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 20:21:

Since you yourself chose *this* subsection to start this discussion

i DID take the effort to put it in the english part of PF..

Uitspraak van verwijderd op zondag 8 mei 2005 om 20:21:

since over there it wouldn't have made our non-Dutch members feel slightly unwelcome

now that's fine?
so the english topic are going to be moderated for not friendly sentences that could desturb foreign visitors?

no, *all* topics are moderated... didn't you notice?

You come in here, putting down something we've planned for over a year. We wouldn't have done this if nobody had *asked* for it.

You think this extra service will cause a kind of "separation"... what separation? Of people who can't even participate right now anyway?

This subsection is obviously not intended for *you*, just like the "Market" subsection isn't intended for people who have nothing to buy or nothing to sell. So why even be bothered about it?



done!