heb ik t in mn 1tje dat xtc pas effect heeft nadat k 6 weken geen pillen gebruikt heb, of ben k n btje uitzondering als k binnen die periode van 6 weken alleen energie en geen echte space krijg....
sa strak as oan aap
hoevaak slik jij achter elkaar pillen dan?
junk 
valt wel mee hoor... k neem nooit meer dan 4 per avond.. maar k moet altijd echt lang wachten voordat k t effect n beetje lijkt op t effect van m n allereerste 
Effect van je allereerste kan je wel vergeten denk ik
tja, misschien wat zwaardere shit gebruiken en niet blijven kloten met crystal
wat rustiger aan doen 
net als je aller eerste keer kan je vergeten wordt nooit meer zo lijp en wous gaan als eerste keer. en tip hoe minder je neemt hoe sneller effect. elke pil x-tra vertraagt de inslag met 15 tot 30 minuten. maar beste is nog gewoon van die troep afbl;ijven
Ik heb een schijthekel daaraan, aan die pillenjunkies en hun vage praat en vreemde lichaamshoudingen.
Irriteert me mateloos, hersenloze josti's
Irriteert me mateloos, hersenloze josti's
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Ik weet dat het inderdaad snel achteruit gaat met het gevoel als je elke week weer slikt. Dit schiet dus ook niet op. Het effect van de eerste keer krijg je waarschijnlijk ook echt niet trug.
Je serotonine gehalte heeft wel een bepaalde tijd nodig om weer op het oude niveau te komen, daarom space je niet dan... ligt niet aan jou
os hendrik tog, junkie die je bent
kun je bter voor 6 weken ff af en toe wat pep nemen dan n pil d8 ik zo, dan kan de serotonine weer wat op peil komen..
Je serotonine gehalte heeft wel een bepaalde tijd nodig om weer op het oude niveau te komen, daarom space je niet dan... ligt niet aan jou
even wat 5-htp nemen dan
owja: drugs zijn slecht voor je, jij boefje
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5-htp?
ja om je serotonine na het weekend weer op peil te brengen
wtf is 5-htp? 
en waar haal je dat?
smartshop of zo'n vitaminewinkel. zit oa in after-C of serocare
en dan neem je dat, serotinene weer goed, geen nadelige effecten?
nee, als je het gewoon normaal neemt niet nee, maar als je seroronine weer op peil is betekend dat natuurlijk niet dat als je veel gebruikt je weer helemaal hersteld bent daarvan
nee ok dat verw8 ik ook niet, maar tis wel chill om maandag weer een beetje vrolijkheid in je te hebben 
Als je niet gaat spacen moet je er gewoon een paar jointjes bij roken, dan space je vanzelf wel weer
leerzaam topic, moet wel ffn gezegt worden Als je het echte euforische xtc effect wilt bereiken, dan kun je 1 hooguit 2 x per jaar xtc nemen.
Neem je het vaker dan krijg je meer een speedy gevoel.
Neem je het vaker dan krijg je meer een speedy gevoel.
alternatief voor 5-htp is ook l-tryptofaan.
heeft dezelfde werking, brengt ook je serotonine peil weer omhoog.
minder doseren tijdens je gebruik wil ook wel helpen, veel mensen slikken meteen ene hele pil, worden daarna erg strak en slaan de echte mdma roes compleet over.
lager doseren, neem een halve en na een uur weer een halve.
na drie halfjes voel je dan wel de echte roes weer.
heeft dezelfde werking, brengt ook je serotonine peil weer omhoog.
minder doseren tijdens je gebruik wil ook wel helpen, veel mensen slikken meteen ene hele pil, worden daarna erg strak en slaan de echte mdma roes compleet over.
lager doseren, neem een halve en na een uur weer een halve.
na drie halfjes voel je dan wel de echte roes weer.
idd, maar 2 x per jaar vink wel errug weinig.. 1x per 1a2 maanden is ook nog leuk
l-tryptofaan.
en waar kan je DAT halen? ook smart shop?
idd, maar 2 x per jaar vink wel errug weinig.. 1x per 1a2 maanden is ook nog leuk
alternatief voor 5-htp is ook l-tryptofaan.
L-tryptofaan is om je dopamine weer aan te lengen. dus als je in het weekend pep hebt gehad.
L-tryptofaan kan je ook gewoon in een potje kopen bij een vitaminewinkel of een smartshop. st. janskruid kan trouwens ook helpen
maar...sint janskruid mogen vrouwen niet gebruiken als ze aan de pil zijn ( anticonceptie pil)
dan verstoord het de werking.
dan verstoord het de werking.
ik vond op internet nog wel een interessant stukje tekst over 5-HTP:
As such preloads are taken on a relatively empty stomach, 1-1.5 hours prior to rolling. Preferably they are taken with a sugary juice to help the amino acids cross the blood brain barrier. Grapefruit juice inhibits one of the p450 cytochrome C digestive enzymes in the digestive tract that metabolizes MDMA and hence can make the effects of the drug somewhat more effective.
It should be noted that preloading can upset some people's stomachs or cause diarrhea due to the acidity of the stomach. In which case these symptoms are easily counteracted by the following steps:
1] Mix the capped substances into juice, shake thoroughly, and sip the solution slowly over the course of an hour prior to a roll.
2] Immodium can counteract the diarrhea and does not interfere with a roll.
3] Tums or any calcium carbonate based antacid reduces the acidity of the stomach and counteracts the feelings of sickness one might encounter when coming up from a roll or after preloading. A newbie I came across on the weekend was doubled over from their pill hitting them too hard - two tums and ten minutes later they were up on their feet feeling fine. If necessary you can also eat a non-acidic carbohydrate based food to buffer acidity, such as bread, muffins, etc.
The practice of postloading is metaphorically to fill up the tank after a long, fast ride. You restore the elements depleted by MDMA, and in doing so, bypass negative side effects and clean up your comedown while restoring normal function.
The only elements required in a postloading regimen are the protective ones. It is suggested that one employ 5-HTP, Vitamin C, Magnesium for the aforementioned reasons. A multivitamin is beneficial to help replace spent micronutrients. Water is of course beneficial. L-Tyrosine, DLPA are not desired nor necessary.
You will know if you are bypassing the negative side effects of serotonin depletion if you can sleep soundly after rolling, and do not experience significant post-MDMA depression or disturbances in verbal processing, short term memory and eating patterns.
Natural sources of trytophan [the precursor to 5-hydroxtrytophan, two steps away from serotonin] include bananas and turkey meat. Turkey's high level of trytophan is the reason why most people feel sleepy after thanksgiving / christmas dinners - the high concentration of trytophan converts to serotonin in the bloodstream. Because of serotonin's relationship to the regulation of sleep, fatigue is induced.
In so far as exact dosages of these elements, it should be noted that it varies from person to person and experimentation is key. The following are guidelines that have been found to work for many. It should also be noted that changing the ratio's of elements can provide different effects. I.E. Decreasing 5-HTP and increasing L-Tyrosine/DLPA can enhance the speediness of a pill, but would not protect the brain from neurotoxic effects as much as more 5-HTP would. Excessive 5-HTP can mellow out a roll. Not make it mashy, but reduce the speediness of the pill.
Preloading:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. L-Tyrosine - 500-1500mg
3. DLPA - 500-1500mg
4. Vitamin C - 1000+, since it is water soluble and so protective you really can't go wrong going high. Remember that orange juice and fruits are comparatively lower sources of vitamin C compared to supplements.
5. L-Glutamine - 2-5 grams
6. Magnesium - 500-1000mg
Post load:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. Vitamin C - 1000mg+
3. Magnesium - 500-1000mg
Remember to experiment and take these things slowly as the sheer volume of pills ingested can upset the stomach. All elements are legal and can be found readily in health food stores and at online health food retailers.
It may seem expensive to buy all these things but to protect your brain against neurotoxic effects and reduce other negative side effects it is well worth it. SSRI type antidepressants have been shown to impart a neuroprotective effect after a roll as well. Specifically fluoxetine [Prozac] has been shown to prevent neurotoxic effects in animals. I have never met a person who has wanted to go back to rolling without preloading / postloading once they tried it. I don't benefit from any of this information directly nor do I have reason to lie. I just hope that this helps makes things safer for people out there.
As such preloads are taken on a relatively empty stomach, 1-1.5 hours prior to rolling. Preferably they are taken with a sugary juice to help the amino acids cross the blood brain barrier. Grapefruit juice inhibits one of the p450 cytochrome C digestive enzymes in the digestive tract that metabolizes MDMA and hence can make the effects of the drug somewhat more effective.
It should be noted that preloading can upset some people's stomachs or cause diarrhea due to the acidity of the stomach. In which case these symptoms are easily counteracted by the following steps:
1] Mix the capped substances into juice, shake thoroughly, and sip the solution slowly over the course of an hour prior to a roll.
2] Immodium can counteract the diarrhea and does not interfere with a roll.
3] Tums or any calcium carbonate based antacid reduces the acidity of the stomach and counteracts the feelings of sickness one might encounter when coming up from a roll or after preloading. A newbie I came across on the weekend was doubled over from their pill hitting them too hard - two tums and ten minutes later they were up on their feet feeling fine. If necessary you can also eat a non-acidic carbohydrate based food to buffer acidity, such as bread, muffins, etc.
The practice of postloading is metaphorically to fill up the tank after a long, fast ride. You restore the elements depleted by MDMA, and in doing so, bypass negative side effects and clean up your comedown while restoring normal function.
The only elements required in a postloading regimen are the protective ones. It is suggested that one employ 5-HTP, Vitamin C, Magnesium for the aforementioned reasons. A multivitamin is beneficial to help replace spent micronutrients. Water is of course beneficial. L-Tyrosine, DLPA are not desired nor necessary.
You will know if you are bypassing the negative side effects of serotonin depletion if you can sleep soundly after rolling, and do not experience significant post-MDMA depression or disturbances in verbal processing, short term memory and eating patterns.
Natural sources of trytophan [the precursor to 5-hydroxtrytophan, two steps away from serotonin] include bananas and turkey meat. Turkey's high level of trytophan is the reason why most people feel sleepy after thanksgiving / christmas dinners - the high concentration of trytophan converts to serotonin in the bloodstream. Because of serotonin's relationship to the regulation of sleep, fatigue is induced.
In so far as exact dosages of these elements, it should be noted that it varies from person to person and experimentation is key. The following are guidelines that have been found to work for many. It should also be noted that changing the ratio's of elements can provide different effects. I.E. Decreasing 5-HTP and increasing L-Tyrosine/DLPA can enhance the speediness of a pill, but would not protect the brain from neurotoxic effects as much as more 5-HTP would. Excessive 5-HTP can mellow out a roll. Not make it mashy, but reduce the speediness of the pill.
Preloading:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. L-Tyrosine - 500-1500mg
3. DLPA - 500-1500mg
4. Vitamin C - 1000+, since it is water soluble and so protective you really can't go wrong going high. Remember that orange juice and fruits are comparatively lower sources of vitamin C compared to supplements.
5. L-Glutamine - 2-5 grams
6. Magnesium - 500-1000mg
Post load:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. Vitamin C - 1000mg+
3. Magnesium - 500-1000mg
Remember to experiment and take these things slowly as the sheer volume of pills ingested can upset the stomach. All elements are legal and can be found readily in health food stores and at online health food retailers.
It may seem expensive to buy all these things but to protect your brain against neurotoxic effects and reduce other negative side effects it is well worth it. SSRI type antidepressants have been shown to impart a neuroprotective effect after a roll as well. Specifically fluoxetine [Prozac] has been shown to prevent neurotoxic effects in animals. I have never met a person who has wanted to go back to rolling without preloading / postloading once they tried it. I don't benefit from any of this information directly nor do I have reason to lie. I just hope that this helps makes things safer for people out there.
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kijk ns.. probleem opgelost